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KenyaRe FY19 - FY23 (Both Inclusive)
Ebenyo
#601 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2021 4:43:51 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kenya Reinsurance has put a tender for sale of Reinsurance Plaza Kisumu.
Reserve price Ksh.1 billion
Applause Applause Applause Sell and pay a dividend Applause Are there buyers at that price in this market?


The rich Indians from Kisumu or government though the process may take time to conclude.

Part of the proceeds may also be used to put up their new commercial building (twin towers) in Upper Hill
There are many rich Luos who can buy it. Applause

Using the proceeds to build a new commercial building in Upper Hill, in the near future, would be STUPID and CRIMINAL. Shame on you

The proceeds should be invested in the stock market if the prices remain low. The best is to pay out a dividend. Next best is a share buyback.



https://www.businessdail...insurance-plaza-3299332

@vvs.
There you have it;
""The reason (for sale) is strategic reinvestment," Kenya Re chief executive Jadiah Mwaraniah said in response to the Business Daily queries without divulging further details."

They will not use the proceeds to payout a dividend and highly unlikely stocks.



The main shareholder(GOK) with 60%,is in distress of cash for referendum,budget 2021/2022 and general election 2022.They could be pushing to get this cash.
They pushed safaricom to declare an interim dividend.

https://www.businessdail...rastatals-money-3296618
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Ericsson
#602 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2021 5:44:13 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kenya Reinsurance has put a tender for sale of Reinsurance Plaza Kisumu.
Reserve price Ksh.1 billion
Applause Applause Applause Sell and pay a dividend Applause Are there buyers at that price in this market?


The rich Indians from Kisumu or government though the process may take time to conclude.

Part of the proceeds may also be used to put up their new commercial building (twin towers) in Upper Hill
There are many rich Luos who can buy it. Applause

Using the proceeds to build a new commercial building in Upper Hill, in the near future, would be STUPID and CRIMINAL. Shame on you

The proceeds should be invested in the stock market if the prices remain low. The best is to pay out a dividend. Next best is a share buyback.



https://www.businessdail...insurance-plaza-3299332

@vvs.
There you have it;
""The reason (for sale) is strategic reinvestment," Kenya Re chief executive Jadiah Mwaraniah said in response to the Business Daily queries without divulging further details."

They will not use the proceeds to payout a dividend and highly unlikely stocks.



The main shareholder(GOK) with 60%,is in distress of cash for referendum,budget 2021/2022 and general election 2022.They could be pushing to get this cash.
They pushed safaricom to declare an interim dividend.

https://www.businessdail...rastatals-money-3296618

Can't rely on this since they ain't sure they will get a buyer.
Safaricom is a different case since it doesn't have financial regulatory compliances
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#603 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2021 9:06:16 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kenya Reinsurance has put a tender for sale of Reinsurance Plaza Kisumu.
Reserve price Ksh.1 billion
Applause Applause Applause Sell and pay a dividend Applause Are there buyers at that price in this market?


The rich Indians from Kisumu or government though the process may take time to conclude.

Part of the proceeds may also be used to put up their new commercial building (twin towers) in Upper Hill
There are many rich Luos who can buy it. Applause

Using the proceeds to build a new commercial building in Upper Hill, in the near future, would be STUPID and CRIMINAL. Shame on you

The proceeds should be invested in the stock market if the prices remain low. The best is to pay out a dividend. Next best is a share buyback.



https://www.businessdail...insurance-plaza-3299332

@vvs.
There you have it;
""The reason (for sale) is strategic reinvestment," Kenya Re chief executive Jadiah Mwaraniah said in response to the Business Daily queries without divulging further details."

They will not use the proceeds to payout a dividend and highly unlikely stocks.



The main shareholder(GOK) with 60%,is in distress of cash for referendum,budget 2021/2022 and general election 2022.They could be pushing to get this cash.
They pushed safaricom to declare an interim dividend.

https://www.businessdail...rastatals-money-3296618

Can't rely on this since they ain't sure they will get a buyer.
Safaricom is a different case since it doesn't have financial regulatory compliances

Kenya Re is over-capitalized for the size of its business.
It is earning low returns on its cash (deposits, T-Bills).
The sale of the property is a matter for 2021.
The dividend is for FY2020.

BUT the IRA can block a dividend.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#604 Posted : Tuesday, February 23, 2021 12:23:43 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kenya Reinsurance has put a tender for sale of Reinsurance Plaza Kisumu.
Reserve price Ksh.1 billion
Applause Applause Applause Sell and pay a dividend Applause Are there buyers at that price in this market?


The rich Indians from Kisumu or government though the process may take time to conclude.

Part of the proceeds may also be used to put up their new commercial building (twin towers) in Upper Hill
There are many rich Luos who can buy it. Applause

Using the proceeds to build a new commercial building in Upper Hill, in the near future, would be STUPID and CRIMINAL. Shame on you

The proceeds should be invested in the stock market if the prices remain low. The best is to pay out a dividend. Next best is a share buyback.



https://www.businessdail...insurance-plaza-3299332

@vvs.
There you have it;
""The reason (for sale) is strategic reinvestment," Kenya Re chief executive Jadiah Mwaraniah said in response to the Business Daily queries without divulging further details."

They will not use the proceeds to payout a dividend and highly unlikely stocks.



The main shareholder(GOK) with 60%,is in distress of cash for referendum,budget 2021/2022 and general election 2022.They could be pushing to get this cash.
They pushed safaricom to declare an interim dividend.

https://www.businessdail...rastatals-money-3296618

Can't rely on this since they ain't sure they will get a buyer.
Safaricom is a different case since it doesn't have financial regulatory compliances

Kenya Re is over-capitalized for the size of its business.
It is earning low returns on its cash (deposits, T-Bills).
The sale of the property is a matter for 2021.
The dividend is for FY2020.

BUT the IRA can block a dividend.



Proceeds is for strategic reinvestment meaning.
What is this strategic investment they want to pursue that they can't use the available cash?
Is is acquisition of a stake in a reinsurer?
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#605 Posted : Thursday, March 04, 2021 12:40:41 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kenya Reinsurance has put a tender for sale of Reinsurance Plaza Kisumu.
Reserve price Ksh.1 billion
Applause Applause Applause Sell and pay a dividend Applause Are there buyers at that price in this market?


The rich Indians from Kisumu or government though the process may take time to conclude.

Part of the proceeds may also be used to put up their new commercial building (twin towers) in Upper Hill
There are many rich Luos who can buy it. Applause

Using the proceeds to build a new commercial building in Upper Hill, in the near future, would be STUPID and CRIMINAL. Shame on you

The proceeds should be invested in the stock market if the prices remain low. The best is to pay out a dividend. Next best is a share buyback.



https://www.businessdail...insurance-plaza-3299332

@vvs.
There you have it;
""The reason (for sale) is strategic reinvestment," Kenya Re chief executive Jadiah Mwaraniah said in response to the Business Daily queries without divulging further details."

They will not use the proceeds to payout a dividend and highly unlikely stocks.



The main shareholder(GOK) with 60%,is in distress of cash for referendum,budget 2021/2022 and general election 2022.They could be pushing to get this cash.
They pushed safaricom to declare an interim dividend.

https://www.businessdail...rastatals-money-3296618

Can't rely on this since they ain't sure they will get a buyer.
Safaricom is a different case since it doesn't have financial regulatory compliances

Kenya Re is over-capitalized for the size of its business.
It is earning low returns on its cash (deposits, T-Bills).
The sale of the property is a matter for 2021.
The dividend is for FY2020.

BUT the IRA can block a dividend.


Properties investment is 31% of their total assets.
This is above the 30% limit.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Elephant Man
#606 Posted : Thursday, March 04, 2021 3:46:44 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 12/24/2008
Posts: 112
Would prefer that they paid a better dividend for 2020 rather than spending loads of money advertising 50 years in business on billboards around town as if they are manufacturers of some soap or cooking oil or some other FMCG! After all, when does the public walk into their offices to purchase re-insurance?
VituVingiSana
#607 Posted : Thursday, March 04, 2021 5:18:18 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
Elephant Man wrote:
Would prefer that they paid a better dividend for 2020 rather than spending loads of money advertising 50 years in business on billboards around town as if they are manufacturers of some soap or cooking oil or some other FMCG! After all, when does the public walk into their offices to purchase re-insurance?
Applause Applause Applause You need to write to the MD! Or the Chairperson. Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#608 Posted : Thursday, March 04, 2021 6:50:40 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
Would prefer that they paid a better dividend for 2020 rather than spending loads of money advertising 50 years in business on billboards around town as if they are manufacturers of some soap or cooking oil or some other FMCG! After all, when does the public walk into their offices to purchase re-insurance?
Applause Applause Applause You need to write to the MD! Or the Chairperson. Applause Applause Applause


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Amekasirika yake yote
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#609 Posted : Thursday, March 04, 2021 7:42:15 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Elephant Man wrote:
Would prefer that they paid a better dividend for 2020 rather than spending loads of money advertising 50 years in business on billboards around town as if they are manufacturers of some soap or cooking oil or some other FMCG! After all, when does the public walk into their offices to purchase re-insurance?
Applause Applause Applause You need to write to the MD! Or the Chairperson. Applause Applause Applause


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Amekasirika yake yote
I support @ElephantMan 100%. Pay more in dividends. Or use the "billboard advertising" to reach out and support its clients/staff/brokers.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
watesh
#610 Posted : Friday, March 05, 2021 9:19:26 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/10/2014
Posts: 992
Location: Kenya
Elephant Man wrote:
Would prefer that they paid a better dividend for 2020 rather than spending loads of money advertising 50 years in business on billboards around town as if they are manufacturers of some soap or cooking oil or some other FMCG! After all, when does the public walk into their offices to purchase re-insurance?


Ifikie MD!!!!Applause Applause Applause Applause
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