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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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mwanahisa wrote:@ Much Know. What's your source? These figures look like they are the figures for registered SIM cards? A little knowledge is a dangerous thing... Remember, Much know's logic states Essar=YU=Vodaphone=kenya petroleum refinery... LOL  Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,276 Location: Nairobi
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@mlefu - I love it... I used cybercafes to call USA... Now I use my simu when I want, where I want... Pole... lakini cybercafes offering international calls are screwed! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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as for those using sim card numbers to equate them to users, i have a number for all networks but the last time i remember using my zain line is before 'massaa ya kubamba' came into existance. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/11/2007 Posts: 1,680 Location: nairobi
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where will all the money used to make calls go to..the last time i loaded credit is like a week ago...before that it used to be hourly.. how does that affect the economy?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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mlefu wrote:where will all the money used to make calls go to..the last time i loaded credit is like a week ago...before that it used to be hourly.. how does that affect the economy? BUY EABL shares!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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because the calling rates are lower people will tend to call more minutes. as expllained earlier, this is called elasticity in demande where by when the price goes down more people tend to by the product which in some cases leads to more sales. in saf's case iits not certain but we cannot rule that option out. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Sober wrote:because the calling rates are lower people will tend to call more minutes. as expllained earlier, this is called elasticity in demande where by when the price goes down more people tend to by the product which in some cases leads to more sales.
in saf's case iits not certain but we cannot rule that option out. I think we can safely rule that out with scratch card dealers complaining about 60% drop in sales volumes... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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@Sober, Fish cake!!......We all know that the younger the monkey the longer the tail.Now you want to apply it here?? Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,561
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The figures i gave are factual, September 15th Safcom controls 82% of the market with 13.8mill, Zain with Paltry 1.9mill. August 31st figures were discussed extensively (sorry for those with poor memories, obviously had problems learning at school) Safcom was 13.4mill, Zain 1.39mill, Yu 445K, Orange 250K. There were soo many comments on the figures(for example orange) you have to wonder how so very dense someone is to forget such simple figures, pole kwako. Anyhow found some links, the BD article actually has the table i saw. September 15 http://www.businessdaily...6/-/1ghvhg/-/index.html
August 31 http://www.itnewsafrica.com/?p=8798
I dougt the figure will change much, most people must have registered. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Much Know wrote:The figure i gave are factual, September 15th Safcom controls 82% of the market with 13.8, Zain with Paltry 1.9. August 31st figures were discussed extensively (sorry for those with poor memories, obviously had problems learning at school) Safcom was 13.4, Zain 1.39, Yu 445K, Orange 250K. There were soo many comments on the figures(for example orange) you have to wonder how so very dense someone is to forget such simple figures, pole kwako. Anyhow found some links, the BD article actually has the table i saw. September 15 http://www.businessdaily...6/-/1ghvhg/-/index.html
August 31 http://www.itnewsafrica.com/?p=8798
I dougt the figure will change much, most people must have registered. Einstien, these numbers you have quoted here of Orange 250k etc were for 25th August, a week before closing. LOL Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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KulaRaha wrote:I think we can safely rule that out with scratch card dealers complaining about 60% drop in sales volumes... @KulaHeppy, Where are you guys getting this 60% figure from? This is the second time I'm seeing it quoted.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/27/2010 Posts: 324 Location: nrb
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mlefu wrote:Airtel has really really #$%^& me big time, CCK and my lawyer said i had no grounds to sue them..still i wish someone wld do it....
VOIP business is now dead and buried..wtf, my cost to india was 2bob, i used to charge 8 bob, airtel cost to india is 1bob..the idiots are charging 3 bob...worse than Nyamu ya ruguru!!!! Pole sana. very revealing, how this isnt just a battle of the corporates
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,561
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@2012, wacha propaganda machinery this is porojo machinery. Revenue from the highend is down (including the 200k or so post paid) but middle end and low end is up. You will be amazed on the data of the 100/- card, data will be public soon. Its onething to load a 20/- card and make 2minutes of calling and another to load 100/- and make a week of meaningful calls at 2/-. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Much Know wrote:@2012, wacha propaganda machinery this is porojo machinery. My friend I was just asking whether this 60% drop is real or imagined because I discovered there are some wazuans with very creative imaginations. Anyway let's debate this further; Zain reduces their call rates to 3/- to all networks, Scom reduces to 2/- within scom and 3/- to other networks. Question is, why would I migrate from scom and most of the calls I make are to scom? Secondly, we all know that Zain/Airtel's current strategy is not sustainable, so what happens after they gets or fails to achieve their targeted market share?
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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2012 wrote:Much Know wrote:@2012, wacha propaganda machinery this is porojo machinery. My friend I was just asking whether this 60% drop is real or imagined because I discovered there are some wazuans with very creative imaginations. Anyway let's debate this further; Zain reduces their call rates to 3/- to all networks, Scom reduces to 2/- within scom and 3/- to other networks. Question is, why would I migrate from scom and most of the calls I make are to scom? Secondly, we all know that Zain/Airtel's current strategy is not sustainable, so what happens after they gets or fails to achieve their targeted market share? This perceived drop of 60% of sales is numbers coming out of the scratch card dealer fraternity...ask around... Dont migrate from Safcon to anywhere. But rem, where you paid 8 bob you now pay 2 bob. Unless you're talking 4 times as much as you used to, revenues will never be the same again. Ever. Price war is unsustainable? That one, I think we will discuss a year from now...when interconnectivity goes to 1 bob range, as requested by Zain, Yu and Orange. You may be right, 3 bob may be too high! Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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And some still say KK is the most discussed stock! GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2008 Posts: 1,438
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Bring it on. By the way does anyone have figures on charges in other jurisdictions especially those with basement level tariffs - perhaps India, Bangladesh, Pakistan and China? It seems we are heading there.
Interestingly, I looked at charges for data plans charged by MTN in South Africa and they are a lot more expensive than our current offers!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville
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mlefu wrote:Airtel has really really #$%^& me big time, CCK and my lawyer said i had no grounds to sue them..still i wish someone wld do it....
VOIP business is now dead and buried..wtf, my cost to india was 2bob, i used to charge 8 bob, airtel cost to india is 1bob..the idiots are charging 3 bob...worse than Nyamu ya ruguru!!!! Pole Bwana Mlefu.  . It is just that bad things happen to good people. Trusting you are good now. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Now i can call landlines from my safcom cell, heck i can even call zain and yu dudes Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,276 Location: Nairobi
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Bottomline: THANK YOU AIRTEL... for 'persuading' safaricom to see the light! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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