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Safaricom results-what's your take?
Kamau Mugi
#51 Posted : Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:46:00 AM
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LOL! Did anyone catch that 'analyst' from SIB on CNBC Africa (Wednesday Morning) right after MJ's interview?
Njunge
#52 Posted : Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:02:00 AM
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When you include the two 'one off' items of Kshs 1.2B and 533M,doesn't the pre-tax profit show an overall drop of around 15%...??.....Nakwambia......Hii itaenda negative......!!!!

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Mainat
#53 Posted : Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:42:00 AM
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That Ksh533m is for fx gain on a loan...Anybody hold East Africa Portland shares?

It could be Ksh1bn loss next yr. Or in the 2nd half.

As I mentioned earlier,Safcom also got lower tax rate...

Sell and wait until next March

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jammo
#54 Posted : Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:29:00 AM
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@kamau mugi.. I had a serious runnin with an analyst from SIB during the IPO arguing that Safcom volumes are doomed but these guys had a collective vision that it would touch 15by mid december!!.. I swear there are better brains in sk! Nothin against SIB but listenin to the analyst on tv made me wonder what advice they give to clients!..unless of course its advice in line with 2030vision.

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novestor
#55 Posted : Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:47:00 AM
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It would not be prudent to dismiss the guys selling off as a 6month bet/wait is really not gambling and many actually need their money and had been advised to expect price gain but oops. However i insist it's a big mistake,read that balance sheet,their capital expenditure is twice this 9billion profit for very good reasons,to force a higher profit like 15billion for MJ to please folk is so so easy. Affordable communication to wananchi is a Safaricom vision being built in many ways. Forget Mpesa,This fibre optic cable being laid in kawangware/waithaka/dandora everywhere the trenches have been dug,picture landline calls for say 50cents per minute and supersonic internet in kawangware and every home for 200bob per month,then tell me safcom can be compared to Zain or for that matter any Kenya Company in anyway. At these prices,if you have money buy,i guarantee Safaricom will be the first billion dollar profit company in the Region. This stories of vuka touching safcom in anyway are baseless,Zain has little vision,it was destroyed by the first kafrench CEO simply because of the Key CEO attribute,VISION,let the price fall


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kaka2za
#56 Posted : Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:28:00 AM
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As a new investor I find this Safcom a bit confusing .My decision is to do nothing.Just forget the shares I bought and see whether they will appreciate in three years!


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Kenyan Enigma
#57 Posted : Saturday, November 15, 2008 7:11:00 PM
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@McReggae,

Post paid customers may currently be 2% of Safcon's clients but you can rest assured that if Safaricom continues discriminating against them during promotions as it has been doing,they will all switch to Pre-paid. A good example is the current promotion: think about it - Practically all Post-paid customers spend more than shs. 3000 a month yet during the current promotion,they are to make calls at shs. 4 a minute.

Compare this to the guy on Pre-paid who buys a shs. 1000 scratch card,despite spending only 1/3 of what the person on post-paid spends,he gets to talks at shs.3 a minute and does not have to pay a fixed charge at the end of the month. You come to realise that Post-paid customers are getting a raw deal.

@ All of you still on Safaricom Post-paid,

Why haven't you switched to Pre-paid yet?


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Gordon Gekko
#58 Posted : Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:18:00 AM
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@kenyan enigma,I was on post paid until I saw a mechanic winning 10M and I couldn't take part 'because I was postpaid'. By going prepaid I increased my chances of winning subsequent raffles from nil to 0.0000001. I also save on 200+VAT standing charge. However I greatly miss customer service 200. The prepaid 100 is joke of the century.
Kirethi
#59 Posted : Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:17:00 PM
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on safcom I believe the results were good and in my view pple should buy the shares before the prices start rising next year.

Watu wachangamuke
avid-commentator
#60 Posted : Monday, November 17, 2008 2:31:00 PM
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Safcom really needs to sort out it's balance sheet,Current liabilities outstrip Current assets by 2:1. Profit after tax is down (EBITDA is not a a very useful measure ).This is not exactly blue -chip territory. ARPU is going down and will not fare better with the entry of competition. My advise is sell when you can break even. It will be an uphill task for the company to be able to increase shareholder value in the near future. A P.E of about 10 is not bad but the proof of the pudding is in the financial statements.

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