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KDN JUST ANOTHER KENYAN ISP
KulaRaha
#51 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:44:54 AM
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Editing a post in a forum hiding behind the excuse of "moderation" is just not done!

Lock the thread if you must, but editing the post?? Surely, you are not amateurs.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
blackthought
#52 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:08:51 PM
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"Wazua...Just Another Kenyan Forum!!!"---(means whatever you want it to mean!!!)

The antiques pulled by the wazua folk today, has totally proved this!!!...It is almost as if the wazua guys have already taken sides and came in with their "big-stick" (the power of Admin) to "clean house"Shame on you thats not right at all! you guys should have kept the authenticity of @alma's topic intact, or you should have changed it immediately it was created last week, coming in now shows that you guys may be leaning too much on KDN's side!

Or, just tell us not to use words like "Worst" 0r, "bad",(create your list here) in the topics we may choose to create!!!smile

More Power to @alma!!!

what else can i say?...(hope i am not punished for this)Pray
KulaRaha
#53 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:10:42 PM
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Blackthought, reminds you of Kenya in the early 80s....soon we will all be banned for sedition!!!

Mwakenya
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
bird_man
#54 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:11:11 PM
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@Alma,I'm not refuting that you have had poor service with KDN,I just don't like how you go ranting about it and negatively increasing their Google search rankings.

Now back to me.....about email adds,I halted that venture when I realized it was illegal and very controversial.I also said I made 200k from a Kenyan site.....not KCB.The KCB site was done by one big Kenyan website design company I hear for 3Milli.You can call them and ask if interested.
Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
blackthought
#55 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:30:15 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Blackthought, reminds you of Kenya in the early 80s....soon we will all be banned for sedition!!!

Mwakenya


@ Kularaha...True, true!!!

Wooooi, Wooooi!!!! Nyayo house...torture...account banning!!!!

why do they need users, if they will just "Edit" stuff as they see fit? they should just create Pre-defined Topics d'oh! that we the "Humble users" should contribute to, and then they can also edit our comments in those pre-defined topics to make sure they are "factual" (or whatever reason they gave for editing @alma's post)

That way wazua can have a nice, clean "politically correct" site! with users who love and fear the powerful Admins!!!Laughing out loudly

hehe!!!

it is sad what we are seeing on this forum!

KulaRaha
#56 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:36:35 PM
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Prob KDN (or whoever) spends advertising here, so these guys are screwed coz they sold their souls....anytime you criticise their sponsor, they'll ride in like crusaders on white horses....

I am so shocked they edited this post, I've never seen anything like this on any other forum. Usually they lock the thread and ban you for cool off for a few days. But to adulterate your content?? How primitive!
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
kyt
#57 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:44:06 PM
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@ birdman, just kubali ume-beat in this sector of defending KDN. Umechapa, umechapa! Simple.
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bird_man
#58 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:03:51 PM
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Hehe Kyt!
Wacha niache hii mambo ya KDN,we are getting nowhere.Worst of all is nai-defend sana na hata silipwi!Laters man!
Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
blackthought
#59 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 2:40:15 PM
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We All have a "price" i wonder what was wazua's?

Hmmmm!!!!
lukandu
#60 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:02:36 PM
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Just seen this post.

First I must apologize for the experience you had. I hope it was an isolated case because I know we strive to offer the best service. I believe thats how we reached where we are

Thanks to all who came to KDN s defense. I am a KDN person and thus I ill try to answer a few questions and follow up on behalf of all who have any issues.

Lets start with the post and make a few technical issues clear.


First of all, they gave us an IP address in Tanzania.....

-- IP s are assigned by AFRINIC to a legally registered entity. In this case the IPs were assigned to Swift TZ (Altech stream TZ), which ideally is KDN in TZ.. We are allowed to use this IP legally on any of our network nodes as long as we originate with our ASN. For example if i have a client in TZ and my internet GW is in kenya their is nothing illegal or technically wrong assigning them an IP in kenya. ---


For those who don't understand, this is illegal and can and has been used by terrorists to hide their exact location.

---Even if the client was in London I am allowed to do this. So the legality bit with all due respect does not arise here. All that is needed is a reverse DNS entry to the client name..e.g wazua200.co.ke-- Otherwise how would providers sell their capacity overseas/crossborder without the IPs "crossing borders" ? As for terrorist using reverse DNS entries to hide identity... well they would not last an hour. From any WHOIS you ill be able to find who owns this IP space. A looking glass will tell you exactly which AS originated this and in 5 mins someone will be at your door step. Trust me,there was nothing wrong (legally and technically) or ill intentioned when this IP was given to you or any other person



It took 1 Week to change something that normally takes 10 minutes.
-- Apologies for this. If you still have this problem and you are willing to work with us again, please give me your ticket number and I ill be on it. ipsol@kdn.co.ke is the e-mail ---

I don't even want to tell you how some IT guy can lie straight faced that the company IP was in Kenya.

-- Whoever it was , he did not lie. I just wish you had pasted a simple ping and trace to your gateway and the latency and trace would tell you the next hop and the distances involved. If you are on fiber you would take 2 ms to reach your GW. Anything beyond 7 ms you are out of MSA. TZ would definitely give you much more. He probably advised that we do a reverse dns entry. If you had a domain, we would reverse it to your name. It was an oversight that we did not reverse to KDN Kenya. This however would not affect your service in any way apart from perhaps having some sites pointing to tz e.g google.co.tz ---

Second. We paid for this corporate account last year before christmas.
One month later, we have had no day when we had internet connection.

-- I can only apologize for this and promise to offer you a better experience--

I am serious. No internet connection that lasts more than 10 minutes before it is dropped.

-- This definitely is strange. Need to be really looked into. Again please if I can get the ticket number. Otherwise anybody on SEACOM should be browsing in intervals of 10 mins. ---

Third I will talk about customer service...

-- I have this escalated to our customer support manager. And again I cant apologize enough
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