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Rank: Member Joined: 7/6/2018 Posts: 175 Location: Kinshasa
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My understanding of short selling is that it involves borrowing a stock, selling the same, and then buying it back at a lower unit price to return it to the owner. Hence, shorting ought to be first enabled by the NSE before players can play. It is really not the brokers' call in the current scheme of things. Forget pedestrian journalists or brokers who are forever peddling unfounded info. Some broker guys crave to sound educated when making presentations at investors' forums. I recently asked one such young lady (the so called reseachers/ financial analysts) who kept bandying buzzwords in her presentation to lend me her Jubilee shares so that I can short'em and she went blank. If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Balaa wrote:My understanding of short selling is that it involves borrowing a stock, selling the same, and then buying it back at a lower unit price to return it to the owner. Hence, shorting ought to be first enabled by the NSE before players can play. It is really not the brokers' call in the current scheme of things. Forget pedestrian journalists or brokers who are forever peddling unfounded info. Some broker guys crave to sound educated when making presentations at investors' forums. I recently asked one such young lady (the so called reseachers/ financial analysts) who kept bandying buzzwords in her presentation to lend me her Jubilee shares so that I can short'em and she went blank. @Balaa you are the one in the woods on this one. Shorting in the case of NSE involves standardized contracts to sell/buy underlying stocks at specific prices in future. The lending (margin) is provided by brokers. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/6/2018 Posts: 175 Location: Kinshasa
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Thanks for the titbit @Sparkly. Glad to keep on learning even at my age I'll stick though to my longerm investing strategy. Now with these kinda news what's your take Sir on BAT? https://www.tobaccofreek...ritish-american-tobacco
Am heavily invested in the firm and have been averaging down, currently @548 in terms of ABP. If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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This is not a true short. If I sell BAT short then there is no fixed timeframe. The "lender" may demand his shares back but that's a different story. Usually, there is no obligation to return the shares to the lender until the short is covered. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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Balaa wrote:Thanks for the titbit @Sparkly. Glad to keep on learning even at my age I'll stick though to my longerm investing strategy. Now with these kinda news what's your take Sir on BAT? https://www.tobaccofreek...ritish-american-tobacco
Am heavily invested in the firm and have been averaging down, currently @548 in terms of ABP. One of my best shares courtesy of one @CNN around 2008 or thereabout. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Balaa wrote:Thanks for the titbit @Sparkly. Glad to keep on learning even at my age I'll stick though to my longerm investing strategy. "Going Short" and "Going Long" are technical terms which are not necessarily connected to investment period. Going short means you sell an expensive stock believing price will fall. Going long means you buy a cheap share believing price will rise. Now with these kinda news what's your take Sir on BAT? https://www.tobaccofreek...ritish-american-tobacco
Am heavily invested in the firm and have been averaging down, currently @548 in terms of ABP. Biggest threat to tobacco industry is government regulation and taxation. However cigarette smoking is addictive and so long as it remains legal, people will smoke and BAT will make money. The new regulations, just like the Ngilu Regulations will depress the share price and provide a buying opportunity. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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sparkly wrote:Balaa wrote:Thanks for the titbit @Sparkly. Glad to keep on learning even at my age I'll stick though to my longerm investing strategy. "Going Short" and "Going Long" are technical terms which are not necessarily connected to investment period. Going short means you sell an expensive stock believing price will fall. Going long means you buy a cheap share believing price will rise. Now with these kinda news what's your take Sir on BAT? https://www.tobaccofreek...ritish-american-tobacco
Am heavily invested in the firm and have been averaging down, currently @548 in terms of ABP. Biggest threat to tobacco industry is government regulation and taxation. However cigarette smoking is addictive and so long as it remains legal, people will smoke and BAT will make money. The new regulations, just like the Ngilu Regulations will depress the share price and provide a buying opportunity. Of course after 2 years, you know what will happen to enforcement. BAT is one of the corporate giants in Kenya. My fear is that they will one day wake up and chase us (buy us out) anytime they feel like - Uniliver style. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2019 Posts: 119
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I am watching Sanlam keenly. It has touched a low 0f 16.25 today
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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Receptor wrote:I am watching Sanlam keenly. It has touched a low 0f 16.25 today ...............following. Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Fyatu wrote:Receptor wrote:I am watching Sanlam keenly. It has touched a low 0f 16.25 today ...............following. Following another penny stock? Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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sparkly wrote:Fyatu wrote:Receptor wrote:I am watching Sanlam keenly. It has touched a low 0f 16.25 today ...............following. Following another penny stock? The mantra is.... go hard or go home. Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Fyatu wrote:sparkly wrote:Fyatu wrote:Receptor wrote:I am watching Sanlam keenly. It has touched a low 0f 16.25 today ...............following. Following another penny stock? The mantra is.... go hard or go home. Very well if it works for you. You dig the dirt long enough and one day you will hit gold. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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sparkly wrote:Fyatu wrote:sparkly wrote:Fyatu wrote:Receptor wrote:I am watching Sanlam keenly. It has touched a low 0f 16.25 today ...............following. Following another penny stock? The mantra is.... go hard or go home. Very well if it works for you. You dig the dirt long enough and one day you will hit gold. Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:sparkly wrote:Balaa wrote:Thanks for the titbit @Sparkly. Glad to keep on learning even at my age I'll stick though to my longerm investing strategy. "Going Short" and "Going Long" are technical terms which are not necessarily connected to investment period. Going short means you sell an expensive stock believing price will fall. Going long means you buy a cheap share believing price will rise. Now with these kinda news what's your take Sir on BAT? https://www.tobaccofreek...ritish-american-tobacco
Am heavily invested in the firm and have been averaging down, currently @548 in terms of ABP. Biggest threat to tobacco industry is government regulation and taxation. However cigarette smoking is addictive and so long as it remains legal, people will smoke and BAT will make money. The new regulations, just like the Ngilu Regulations will depress the share price and provide a buying opportunity. Of course after 2 years, you know what will happen to enforcement. BAT is one of the corporate giants in Kenya. My fear is that they will one day wake up and chase us (buy us out) anytime they feel like - Uniliver style. Low trade at 436. Vwap 470 Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2016 Posts: 1,997 Location: Kitale
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sparkly wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:sparkly wrote:Thanks for the titbit @Sparkly. Glad to keep on learning even at my age I'll stick though to my longerm investing strategy. "Going Short" and "Going Long" are technical terms which are not necessarily connected to investment period. Going short means you sell an expensive stock believing price will fall. Going long means you buy a cheap share believing price will rise. Now with these kinda news what's your take Sir on BAT? https://www.tobaccofreek...ritish-american-tobacco
Am heavily invested in the firm and have been averaging down, currently @548 in terms of ABP. Biggest threat to tobacco industry is government regulation and taxation. However cigarette smoking is addictive and so long as it remains legal, people will smoke and BAT will make money. The new regulations, just like the Ngilu Regulations will depress the share price and provide a buying opportunity. Of course after 2 years, you know what will happen to enforcement. BAT is one of the corporate giants in Kenya. My fear is that they will one day wake up and chase us (buy us out) anytime they feel like - Uniliver style. Don't worry.BAT management looks stable at the moment and very competent.I doubt they will do that to wanjiku. Towards the goal of financial freedom
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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Quote:Loss-making tyre distributor Sameer Africa emerged as the best stock in 2019 at the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE) with Kenya Airways ranked as the worst in a year when the bourse is in line to make a 16.6 percent return.
Sameer Africa’s share has gained 81 percent since the start of the year and closed trading at Sh3.35 Thursday, meaning an investor who invested Sh1 million in the stock on January 2 has gained Sh810, 000.
In contrast, investors who bought Kenya Airways shares worth Sh1 million, suffered a loss of Sh773,000 given the share has shed 77.3 percent since the start of the year to stand at Sh2.02 at close of trading Thursday.
This analysis is based on investors who buy shares at the start of the year and measures their return at the end of the trading season in a review that does not capture speculators who enter and exit stocks in short periods.
Sameer, whose a half-year losses widened to Sh182.8 million, offered better returns than Safaricom and top banks like Equity and KCB—which have recently emerged ass the jewel stocks for investors seeking returns. Source Link: https://www.businessdail...392322-51wwnc/index.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Topic should now change to 2020 Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Ericsson wrote:Topic should now change to 2020 My purchases in q4 2019 were: BAT abp 475; I@M abp 50; Centum abp 30.50. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2009 Posts: 256
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sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:Topic should now change to 2020 My purchases in q4 2019 were: BAT abp 475; I@M abp 50; Centum abp 30.50. SCBK SCOM
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,103 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:Ericsson wrote:Topic should now change to 2020 My purchases in q4 2019 were: BAT abp 475; I@M abp 50; Centum abp 30.50 Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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