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Wazungus in Karen
omhangla
#51 Posted : Friday, September 08, 2017 12:09:01 PM
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kayhara wrote:

You mean this is Karen,sad green is everything, I have done a few houses in Vipingo where some of the karen Mzungus ran to, in vipingo when you buy an acre of land your agreement states that you can only put up a house covering at-most 20X20 meters, a certain height and thats it, the rest must be green even though it's yours, few years now the place looks amazing not because of the houses but because of the green, the access roads are the type with 2 tire tracks and grass in between works very well, no need to cover the soil with full cabro.

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Halafu those Houses are soo huge and ugly, small windows, cheap and basic materials like those in the kitchen, no green space.
shanoka
#52 Posted : Saturday, September 09, 2017 5:33:55 AM
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I just threw up in my mouth.
shanoka
#53 Posted : Saturday, September 09, 2017 5:43:15 AM
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Surething wrote:
Karen was more isolated on the past, but only fairly recently with the new arrivals & their conspicuous consumption habits have thugs started terrorising residents for hours which I am sure has contributed to the exodus from some of those 0.5acre & 1 acre lots for safer apartments & gated communities.

A key feature of the isolated Mzungu lifestyle is gun ownership and being an expert handler like the late Delamere whose aim was unerring. Any robber would need to have a serious death wish to mess with them. The new money & their offspring seem more keen on drunkenly terrorizing fellow revellers in clubs with their guns.



So as a middle class person, is moving out there really an option? Or is this really just a an old money mzungu option...

Is it safer being in the middle of nowhere, just you and your gun, surrounded by likely poorer communities?

Apart from that, the thought of living in a green place with fresh air in a ranch house is very appealing. Not in a huge, cold, echoing mansion...but the isolation and distance from the rest of my immediate family and friends would be a drawback.
Magigi
#54 Posted : Saturday, September 09, 2017 6:48:31 AM
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kayhara wrote:
lochaes wrote:
shanoka wrote:
Someone told me most of the jungus who used to live in Karen left because of the influx of "others" into the area. Is this true? Where did they go?


walienda upcountry, Nanyuki, Nakuru, Naivasha e.t.c

I have one good example a tenderprenuer landed some serious money, decided to upgrade from eastlands to Muthaiga he got blocked by the residents association there because of BECAUSE, he headed fro karen got 1 acre with mature trees and several mzungu neighbours enjoying the forest like environment, okay the problem started when the guy decide to build his mansion he forgot that karen is good because of the trees, he decided to chop up the whole one acre clear every plant, then get an architect to design the mansion, I refused, the mzungus tried going to NCC, NEMA etc but they didn't succeed in stopping the destruction of trees upto 100 years old, so they decided to leave the guy now ives in a stupendous mansion with a cabro paved yard a full acre of cabro paved with car shades instead of trees, he is lonely because all his neighbor moved and left their land to overgrow, the poor guy is planning to move into an apartment for security fears due to the isolation


Laughing out loudly one acre of Cabro...
Dahatre
#55 Posted : Sunday, September 10, 2017 2:45:21 PM
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Karen When an acre was 15 pounds:
Jon_Gray
#56 Posted : Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:34:43 PM
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Dahatre wrote:
Karen When an acre was 15 pounds:


Yes. Profit more than 100% because cost of acquisition was almot nil....to the settlers that it.
shanoka
#57 Posted : Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:36:53 PM
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Jon_Gray wrote:
Dahatre wrote:
Karen When an acre was 15 pounds:


Yes. Profit more than 100% because cost of acquisition was almot nil....to the settlers that it.



Yep, Africans didn't have that type of dough.
shanoka
#58 Posted : Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:57:20 PM
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Dahatre wrote:




No rates or taxes...
MatataMingi
#59 Posted : Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:54:31 PM
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kayhara wrote:

You mean this is Karen,sad green is everything, I have done a few houses in Vipingo where some of the karen Mzungus ran to, in vipingo when you buy an acre of land your agreement states that you can only put up a house covering at-most 20X20 meters, a certain height and thats it, the rest must be green even though it's yours, few years now the place looks amazing not because of the houses but because of the green, the access roads are the type with 2 tire tracks and grass in between works very well, no need to cover the soil with full cabro.

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Hi @ Kayhara.

I suppose you are talking about Vipingo Beach Estate.
It is true that you can only build a single family home with a maximum foot print of 400 sq m.
You can only build a 2 storey house on row 1, 3 storey on row 2. They are now selling rows 3 @ 4.

I live there on row 2, with a house that has a foot print of 30 sq m. However, it is 3 storeys diving me a total built area of 90 sq m.

The rest of the one acre plot is all garden - apart from the driveway and parking.

As the soil is all coral rock & sand, I had to bring in about 30 lorry loads of
top soil from Vipingo ridge.
I now have a lawn, about 30 different palm trees, bougainvilleas, desert roses, Neem trees, fruit trees etc. Basically anything that grows well at the coast. After living all my life in Nairobi, I don't miss the hustle and bustle of town living.
Life is calm, quite and very good.,
shanoka
#60 Posted : Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:28:24 AM
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MatataMingi wrote:
kayhara wrote:

You mean this is Karen,sad green is everything, I have done a few houses in Vipingo where some of the karen Mzungus ran to, in vipingo when you buy an acre of land your agreement states that you can only put up a house covering at-most 20X20 meters, a certain height and thats it, the rest must be green even though it's yours, few years now the place looks amazing not because of the houses but because of the green, the access roads are the type with 2 tire tracks and grass in between works very well, no need to cover the soil with full cabro.



Hi @ Kayhara.

I suppose you are talking about Vipingo Beach Estate.
It is true that you can only build a single family home with a maximum foot print of 400 sq m.
You can only build a 2 storey house on row 1, 3 storey on row 2. They are now selling rows 3 @ 4.

I live there on row 2, with a house that has a foot print of 30 sq m. However, it is 3 storeys diving me a total built area of 90 sq m.

The rest of the one acre plot is all garden - apart from the driveway and parking.

As the soil is all coral rock & sand, I had to bring in about 30 lorry loads of
top soil from Vipingo ridge.
I now have a lawn, about 30 different palm trees, bougainvilleas, desert roses, Neem trees, fruit trees etc. Basically anything that grows well at the coast. After living all my life in Nairobi, I don't miss the hustle and bustle of town living.
Life is calm, quite and very good.,
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Are you self employed?
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