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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Njung'e wrote:That jinga Laikipia ODM Mpig has been arrested. He should be made a very good example.NKT!! It is said he is the illegitimate child of a certain mzungu and he was abandoned and thats why he is very bitter with ranchers.  
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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The Pokot remind me of the South Sudanese. Nothing will come out of South Sudan, not until the current crop of human beings is extint. Jews should have occupied that land which is so endowed with resources (water, oil, pasture, rainfall) and hordes of savages. The Pokot people are hurtling in the same direction. They don't sound like a people who can coexist with neighbours. As of now, there's a silent peace pact between them and the Samburu, hence the apparent collaboration in these invasions of white farms. Even though the sheer size of the farms is an indignity by itself, I do not think relapsing to the 16th century savage era will solve anything. Today, Laikipia, Samburu, Baringo and parts of Elgeyo Marakwet are war zones. Happening just when they are being opened with asphalt roads and other infrstructure.......Very unfortunate. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Njung'e wrote:That jinga Laikipia ODM Mpig has been arrested. He should be made a very good example.NKT!! It is said he is the illegitimate child of a certain mzungu and he was abandoned and thats why he is very bitter with ranchers. Ara!  which jungu? Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Njung'e wrote:hardwood wrote:Njung'e wrote:That jinga Laikipia ODM Mpig has been arrested. He should be made a very good example.NKT!! It is said he is the illegitimate child of a certain mzungu and he was abandoned and thats why he is very bitter with ranchers. Ara! which jungu? Do you also know that GG is the dad of a certain mpig in baringo?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,723
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simonkabz wrote:The Pokot remind me of the South Sudanese.
Nothing will come out of South Sudan, not until the current crop of human beings is extint. Jews should have occupied that land which is so endowed with resources (water, oil, pasture, rainfall) and hordes of savages.
The Pokot people are hurtling in the same direction. They don't sound like a people who can coexist with neighbours. As of now, there's a silent peace pact between them and the Samburu, hence the apparent collaboration in these invasions of white farms. Even though the sheer size of the farms is an indignity by itself, I do not think relapsing to the 16th century savage era will solve anything.
Today, Laikipia, Samburu, Baringo and parts of Elgeyo Marakwet are war zones. Happening just when they are being opened with asphalt roads and other infrstructure.......Very unfortunate. I really hate this kind of reasoning that reduces human existence to the level of machines or domestic animals. Human worth cannot be reduced to production. What does it matter that nothing comes out of South Sudan? Does South Sudan and its people exist so that they can produce for other people to determine that they deserve to exist? Pokots are human beings with every right to exist. In my opinion they are freedom fighters just like the Mau mau.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Kusadikika wrote:simonkabz wrote:The Pokot remind me of the South Sudanese.
Nothing will come out of South Sudan, not until the current crop of human beings is extint. Jews should have occupied that land which is so endowed with resources (water, oil, pasture, rainfall) and hordes of savages.
The Pokot people are hurtling in the same direction. They don't sound like a people who can coexist with neighbours. As of now, there's a silent peace pact between them and the Samburu, hence the apparent collaboration in these invasions of white farms. Even though the sheer size of the farms is an indignity by itself, I do not think relapsing to the 16th century savage era will solve anything.
Today, Laikipia, Samburu, Baringo and parts of Elgeyo Marakwet are war zones. Happening just when they are being opened with asphalt roads and other infrstructure.......Very unfortunate. I really hate this kind of reasoning that reduces human existence to the level of machines or domestic animals. Human worth cannot be reduced to production. What does it matter that nothing comes out of South Sudan? Does South Sudan and its people exist so that they can produce for other people to determine that they deserve to exist? Pokots are human beings with every right to exist. In my opinion they are freedom fighters just like the Mau mau. What freedom fighters? Would you term akamba invading Kiambu and killing the kiambuans freedom fighters? That is what pokot are doing in laikipia. They have migrated from Baringo to laikipia and are killing everyone from smallholder farmers to ranchers with abandon. They must be stopped. And as @simonkabz has said they have been fighting everyone....marakwets to the west, turkana to the north, samburu to the east, ilchamus and tugens to the south, and now kikuyus and white farmers in laikipia to the south east. They have moved from B aringo and are now in rumuruti. Soon they might attack ndaragwa, kieni and nyeri having moved 300km from their homeland.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,723
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hardwood wrote:Kusadikika wrote:simonkabz wrote:The Pokot remind me of the South Sudanese.
Nothing will come out of South Sudan, not until the current crop of human beings is extint. Jews should have occupied that land which is so endowed with resources (water, oil, pasture, rainfall) and hordes of savages.
The Pokot people are hurtling in the same direction. They don't sound like a people who can coexist with neighbours. As of now, there's a silent peace pact between them and the Samburu, hence the apparent collaboration in these invasions of white farms. Even though the sheer size of the farms is an indignity by itself, I do not think relapsing to the 16th century savage era will solve anything.
Today, Laikipia, Samburu, Baringo and parts of Elgeyo Marakwet are war zones. Happening just when they are being opened with asphalt roads and other infrstructure.......Very unfortunate. I really hate this kind of reasoning that reduces human existence to the level of machines or domestic animals. Human worth cannot be reduced to production. What does it matter that nothing comes out of South Sudan? Does South Sudan and its people exist so that they can produce for other people to determine that they deserve to exist? Pokots are human beings with every right to exist. In my opinion they are freedom fighters just like the Mau mau. What freedom fighters? Would you term akamba invading Kiambu and killing the kiambuans freedom fighters? That is what pokot are doing in laikipia. They have migrated from Baringo to laikipia and are killing everyone from smallholder farmers to ranchers with abandon. They must be stopped. And as @simonkabz has said they have been fighting everyone....marakwets to the west, turkana to the north, samburu to the east, ilchamus and tugens to the south, and now kikuyus and white farmers in laikipia to the south east. They have moved from B aringo and are now in rumuruti. Soon they might attack ndaragwa, kieni and nyeri having moved 300km from their homeland. They are fighting for their freedom to exist and live the way they have always lived. I think the Pokot, Samburu, Marakwet and Tugen have no problem with each other. They have always fought each other and they will eventually make peace and then fight again. It is the white people and other non pastoralist Kenyans who moved into pastoralist lands that are crying. They have determined that a pastoralist way of life is not worthy of existence and look down upon it. A Pokot who determines that his way of life is worth fighting is a freedom fighter. We created a country that only legitimizes the white settlers way of life. There are people who live differently and they too are people.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Kusadikika wrote:hardwood wrote:Kusadikika wrote:simonkabz wrote:The Pokot remind me of the South Sudanese.
Nothing will come out of South Sudan, not until the current crop of human beings is extint. Jews should have occupied that land which is so endowed with resources (water, oil, pasture, rainfall) and hordes of savages.
The Pokot people are hurtling in the same direction. They don't sound like a people who can coexist with neighbours. As of now, there's a silent peace pact between them and the Samburu, hence the apparent collaboration in these invasions of white farms. Even though the sheer size of the farms is an indignity by itself, I do not think relapsing to the 16th century savage era will solve anything.
Today, Laikipia, Samburu, Baringo and parts of Elgeyo Marakwet are war zones. Happening just when they are being opened with asphalt roads and other infrstructure.......Very unfortunate. I really hate this kind of reasoning that reduces human existence to the level of machines or domestic animals. Human worth cannot be reduced to production. What does it matter that nothing comes out of South Sudan? Does South Sudan and its people exist so that they can produce for other people to determine that they deserve to exist? Pokots are human beings with every right to exist. In my opinion they are freedom fighters just like the Mau mau. What freedom fighters? Would you term akamba invading Kiambu and killing the kiambuans freedom fighters? That is what pokot are doing in laikipia. They have migrated from Baringo to laikipia and are killing everyone from smallholder farmers to ranchers with abandon. They must be stopped. And as @simonkabz has said they have been fighting everyone....marakwets to the west, turkana to the north, samburu to the east, ilchamus and tugens to the south, and now kikuyus and white farmers in laikipia to the south east. They have moved from B aringo and are now in rumuruti. Soon they might attack ndaragwa, kieni and nyeri having moved 300km from their homeland. They are fighting for their freedom to exist and live the way they have always lived. I think the Pokot, Samburu, Marakwet and Tugen have no problem with each other. They have always fought each other and they will eventually make peace and then fight again. It is the white people and other non pastoralist Kenyans who moved into pastoralist lands that are crying. They have determined that a pastoralist way of life is not worthy of existence and look down upon it. A Pokot who determines that his way of life is worth fighting is a freedom fighter. We created a country that only legitimizes the white settlers way of life. There are people who live differently and they too are people. If there is anyone who should be fighting it is the maasai whose fore fathers signed that land agreement with mzungu. But you cant have samburus and pokots invading from the neighbouring districts in the north and west respectively and killing maasai group ranch owners, whites and okuyo farmers. Pokots should remain in their territory in baringo and west pokot, and samburus in samburu district. If we cannot allow luhyas or nandi to invade kisumu county, then we must not allow pokots and samburu to invade laikipia.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/24/2011 Posts: 407 Location: Nairobi,Kenya
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hardwood wrote:Kusadikika wrote:hardwood wrote:Kusadikika wrote:simonkabz wrote:The Pokot remind me of the South Sudanese.
Nothing will come out of South Sudan, not until the current crop of human beings is extint. Jews should have occupied that land which is so endowed with resources (water, oil, pasture, rainfall) and hordes of savages.
The Pokot people are hurtling in the same direction. They don't sound like a people who can coexist with neighbours. As of now, there's a silent peace pact between them and the Samburu, hence the apparent collaboration in these invasions of white farms. Even though the sheer size of the farms is an indignity by itself, I do not think relapsing to the 16th century savage era will solve anything.
Today, Laikipia, Samburu, Baringo and parts of Elgeyo Marakwet are war zones. Happening just when they are being opened with asphalt roads and other infrstructure.......Very unfortunate. I really hate this kind of reasoning that reduces human existence to the level of machines or domestic animals. Human worth cannot be reduced to production. What does it matter that nothing comes out of South Sudan? Does South Sudan and its people exist so that they can produce for other people to determine that they deserve to exist? Pokots are human beings with every right to exist. In my opinion they are freedom fighters just like the Mau mau. What freedom fighters? Would you term akamba invading Kiambu and killing the kiambuans freedom fighters? That is what pokot are doing in laikipia. They have migrated from Baringo to laikipia and are killing everyone from smallholder farmers to ranchers with abandon. They must be stopped. And as @simonkabz has said they have been fighting everyone....marakwets to the west, turkana to the north, samburu to the east, ilchamus and tugens to the south, and now kikuyus and white farmers in laikipia to the south east. They have moved from B aringo and are now in rumuruti. Soon they might attack ndaragwa, kieni and nyeri having moved 300km from their homeland. They are fighting for their freedom to exist and live the way they have always lived. I think the Pokot, Samburu, Marakwet and Tugen have no problem with each other. They have always fought each other and they will eventually make peace and then fight again. It is the white people and other non pastoralist Kenyans who moved into pastoralist lands that are crying. They have determined that a pastoralist way of life is not worthy of existence and look down upon it. A Pokot who determines that his way of life is worth fighting is a freedom fighter. We created a country that only legitimizes the white settlers way of life. There are people who live differently and they too are people. If there is anyone who should be fighting it is the maasai whose fore fathers signed that land agreement with mzungu. But you cant have samburus and pokots invading from the neighbouring districts in the north and west respectively and killing maasai group ranch owners, whites and okuyo farmers. Pokots should remain in their territory in baringo and west pokot, and samburus in samburu district. If we cannot allow luhyas or nandi to invade kisumu county, then we must not allow pokots and samburu to invade laikipia. This is the reason why as a society we created social contracts to form a thing called Government (politics 101).This Thing is supposed to ensure all diverse communities co-exist in harmony.It should have a monopoly of violence in order to contain warring communities such as the Pokot. Otherwise we will all be in the state of nature where everyone would have a right to everything leading to intense conflict and life of man would be , solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short (Thomas Hobbes,the leviathan). I dont understand how someone can support what the Pokot are doing.. Hope is not a strategy
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/5/2010 Posts: 2,061 Location: Nairobi
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sanity wrote:hardwood wrote:Kusadikika wrote:hardwood wrote:Kusadikika wrote:simonkabz wrote:The Pokot remind me of the South Sudanese.
Nothing will come out of South Sudan, not until the current crop of human beings is extint. Jews should have occupied that land which is so endowed with resources (water, oil, pasture, rainfall) and hordes of savages.
The Pokot people are hurtling in the same direction. They don't sound like a people who can coexist with neighbours. As of now, there's a silent peace pact between them and the Samburu, hence the apparent collaboration in these invasions of white farms. Even though the sheer size of the farms is an indignity by itself, I do not think relapsing to the 16th century savage era will solve anything.
Today, Laikipia, Samburu, Baringo and parts of Elgeyo Marakwet are war zones. Happening just when they are being opened with asphalt roads and other infrstructure.......Very unfortunate. I really hate this kind of reasoning that reduces human existence to the level of machines or domestic animals. Human worth cannot be reduced to production. What does it matter that nothing comes out of South Sudan? Does South Sudan and its people exist so that they can produce for other people to determine that they deserve to exist? Pokots are human beings with every right to exist. In my opinion they are freedom fighters just like the Mau mau. What freedom fighters? Would you term akamba invading Kiambu and killing the kiambuans freedom fighters? That is what pokot are doing in laikipia. They have migrated from Baringo to laikipia and are killing everyone from smallholder farmers to ranchers with abandon. They must be stopped. And as @simonkabz has said they have been fighting everyone....marakwets to the west, turkana to the north, samburu to the east, ilchamus and tugens to the south, and now kikuyus and white farmers in laikipia to the south east. They have moved from B aringo and are now in rumuruti. Soon they might attack ndaragwa, kieni and nyeri having moved 300km from their homeland. They are fighting for their freedom to exist and live the way they have always lived. I think the Pokot, Samburu, Marakwet and Tugen have no problem with each other. They have always fought each other and they will eventually make peace and then fight again. It is the white people and other non pastoralist Kenyans who moved into pastoralist lands that are crying. They have determined that a pastoralist way of life is not worthy of existence and look down upon it. A Pokot who determines that his way of life is worth fighting is a freedom fighter. We created a country that only legitimizes the white settlers way of life. There are people who live differently and they too are people. If there is anyone who should be fighting it is the maasai whose fore fathers signed that land agreement with mzungu. But you cant have samburus and pokots invading from the neighbouring districts in the north and west respectively and killing maasai group ranch owners, whites and okuyo farmers. Pokots should remain in their territory in baringo and west pokot, and samburus in samburu district. If we cannot allow luhyas or nandi to invade kisumu county, then we must not allow pokots and samburu to invade laikipia. This is the reason why as a society we created social contracts to form a thing called Government (politics 101).This Thing is supposed to ensure all diverse communities co-exist in harmony.It should have a monopoly of violence in order to contain warring communities such as the Pokot. Otherwise we will all be in the state of nature where everyone would have a right to everything leading to intense conflict and life of man would be , solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short (Thomas Hobbes,the leviathan). I dont understand how someone can support what the Pokot are doing.. Leaders and elders from Pokot, Samburu and these gun-toting communities should look at what happened with Mungiki, Sabaot Land Defence and Mombasa Republican Council when their attacks reached terror levels and advice their irrational young men to completely drop the way of the gun or to stick to small time robberies of a few goats and while at it keep that very far up north ...cause if they keep this up, it will reach critical mass, and then history will repeat itself.
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