masukuma wrote:seriously dodgy physics but yeah.... general relativity gave us a formula...
E= MC*C
Working both ways you end up with either Mass or Energy and the Energy holding protons together (quacks in place) well thats where the standard particle physics model come up with the 'gluon'. A PARTICLE. In the very beginning I stated by saying Energy and Mass are relatives = they behave in different manner but they are interchangeable. The creation of 'beings' can only sensibly happen on one side of that Energy equation and not the other.... do these 'beings' have an ecosystem? if we are Mass beings i.e. we wrap space and we use energy to 'do stuff'. What do the 'energy' beings do? do they use mass to do stuff? do they consume Energy and convert it to mass to be ... i don't know... still? or something? I realize that I am falling into the trap that Christiaan Huygens fell in with his hemp on Jupiter deductive reasoning - but I would love the energy beings side of this debate to construct just how an energy being would be like.... would it live in an energy ecosystem? Instead of attempting to behave like the second set of these people
Before I go far in my response I need to clarify what I mean by 'being'. Being, is firstly a state and a set of states of an entity that bears a relationship with other entities. This means a being is essentially a system.
Secondly, what does it mean to say something is 'massless'? Does it mean the mass=zero? Or does it mean that it's 'infinite'? Masslesness is about undefinability for practical purposes as would be demanded by the scientific method.
So, are there any systems whose mass is undefinable? I can think of many such systems. Language is one, the 8-4-4 system is another, and last but not least, there's the universe itself.
Are these beings energic? Yes!
What do they do? Infinite things. What are their ecosystems? A heterogeny of systems.