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obiero
#101 Posted : Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:00:30 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
the above writing has an uncanny resemblance to @stocksmaster's style.. ama ni mimi tu naona

Click HERE


Contrarian is = @deal, @Mutanga III mastered the art from @stockmaster

I dont hear/see much from @deal @stockmaster on wazua. These were sober men

Does that imply that am not a sober man?

Haha. U are a sober man too. Plus @young. Was js mentioning the lost ones..

COOP 70,000 ABP 15.20; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Akenyan2014
#102 Posted : Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:49:05 PM
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Joined: 5/6/2014
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Location: Nairobi, Kenya
obiero wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
the above writing has an uncanny resemblance to @stocksmaster's style.. ama ni mimi tu naona

Click HERE


Contrarian is = @deal, @Mutanga III mastered the art from @stockmaster

I dont hear/see much from @deal @stockmaster on wazua. These were sober men

Does that imply that am not a sober man?

Haha. U are a sober man too. Plus @young. Was js mentioning the lost ones..


No, @S.Matuga III You have never been sober, you are always HIGH.. Remain that way Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
heri
#103 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:39:39 AM
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Location: nairobi
S.Mutaga III wrote:
After she staying in the sidelines for two months, I have finally decided to invest in stocks once again, because I have spotted a good long term opportunity. My first investment of the year will be Kenya Re, starting Monday.
Activity 1:
Kenya Reinsurance:- It turns out that having a majority shareholding by uncle Sam has some advantages too. Ironically, unlike in other firms, the government is a good business partner in Kenya Re http://www.businessdaily.../-/4r26sdz/-/index.html . The link reveals that it has guaranteed the business of the reinsurer for the next five years. In addition, the valuation of the counter is very low with a single digit P/E. The FY profits have been growing at a good rate in the last three years and despite the low dividend yield, the counter is a good growth stock. I intend to purchase 10,000 shares on Monday at the current price of 18.55. This will be my first investment in 2015. I will update my next buy if an opportunity arises. Happy Hunting 2015



@Mutaga, from your analysis why does this share trade at such a low PE compared to others in the same sector.
S.Mutaga III
#104 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 9:28:55 AM
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Joined: 3/26/2012
Posts: 830
heri wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
After she staying in the sidelines for two months, I have finally decided to invest in stocks once again, because I have spotted a good long term opportunity. My first investment of the year will be Kenya Re, starting Monday.
Activity 1:
Kenya Reinsurance:- It turns out that having a majority shareholding by uncle Sam has some advantages too. Ironically, unlike in other firms, the government is a good business partner in Kenya Re http://www.businessdaily.../-/4r26sdz/-/index.html . The link reveals that it has guaranteed the business of the reinsurer for the next five years. In addition, the valuation of the counter is very low with a single digit P/E. The FY profits have been growing at a good rate in the last three years and despite the low dividend yield, the counter is a good growth stock. I intend to purchase 10,000 shares on Monday at the current price of 18.55. This will be my first investment in 2015. I will update my next buy if an opportunity arises. Happy Hunting 2015



@Mutaga, from your analysis why does this share trade at such a low PE compared to others in the same sector.

1. High government shareholding
2. Low dividend yield

Those are my reasons. You should also note that Kenya Re engages in a special kind of insurance business unlike your typical insurance company. Kenya Re's clients are corporate clients and perhaps investors like businesses whose clients are the mass market AKA Wanjiku. However, the business makes money and I personally hardly care how it makes the money as long as it makes profits every year and its profitability remains in an upward trajectory. I only have a basic understanding of the reinsurance business, nothing beyond the ordinary.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
heri
#105 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 9:35:54 AM
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Joined: 9/14/2011
Posts: 834
Location: nairobi
S.Mutaga III wrote:
heri wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
After she staying in the sidelines for two months, I have finally decided to invest in stocks once again, because I have spotted a good long term opportunity. My first investment of the year will be Kenya Re, starting Monday.
Activity 1:
Kenya Reinsurance:- It turns out that having a majority shareholding by uncle Sam has some advantages too. Ironically, unlike in other firms, the government is a good business partner in Kenya Re http://www.businessdaily.../-/4r26sdz/-/index.html . The link reveals that it has guaranteed the business of the reinsurer for the next five years. In addition, the valuation of the counter is very low with a single digit P/E. The FY profits have been growing at a good rate in the last three years and despite the low dividend yield, the counter is a good growth stock. I intend to purchase 10,000 shares on Monday at the current price of 18.55. This will be my first investment in 2015. I will update my next buy if an opportunity arises. Happy Hunting 2015



@Mutaga, from your analysis why does this share trade at such a low PE compared to others in the same sector.

1. High government shareholding
2. Low dividend yield

Those are my reasons. You should also note that Kenya Re engages in a special kind of insurance business unlike your typical insurance company. Kenya Re's clients are corporate clients and perhaps investors like businesses whose clients are the mass market AKA Wanjiku. However, the business makes money and I personally hardly care how it makes the money as long as it makes profits every year and its profitability remains in an upward trajectory. I only have a basic understanding of the reinsurance business, nothing beyond the ordinary.


Thanks, CIC trades at a PE that is X5 that of Kenya RE and Kennya Re trades at almost a third of the sector PE

i know you have said it is not exactly comparable with the other insurance companies

i wish we could see how in the past its PE compared with the other insurance companies

why does this jubilee government keep such huge shareholding in this company?
Sober
#106 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 10:58:03 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 11/27/2007
Posts: 3,604
Akenyan2014 wrote:
obiero wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
the above writing has an uncanny resemblance to @stocksmaster's style.. ama ni mimi tu naona

Click HERE


Contrarian is = @deal, @Mutanga III mastered the art from @stockmaster

I dont hear/see much from @deal @stockmaster on wazua. These were sober men

Does that imply that am not a sober man?

Haha. U are a sober man too. Plus @young. Was js mentioning the lost ones..


No, @S.Matuga III You have never been sober, you are always HIGH.. Remain that way Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Liar Liar Did someone mention my name?

I am plunging into Jubilee (sold at 430 thinking I had achieved)
CIC is a consideration as it can hit by June and finally Safaricom. I will be accumulating those 3 counters in the coming weeks.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
S.Mutaga III
#107 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 11:22:53 AM
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Joined: 3/26/2012
Posts: 830
heri wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
heri wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
After she staying in the sidelines for two months, I have finally decided to invest in stocks once again, because I have spotted a good long term opportunity. My first investment of the year will be Kenya Re, starting Monday.
Activity 1:
Kenya Reinsurance:- It turns out that having a majority shareholding by uncle Sam has some advantages too. Ironically, unlike in other firms, the government is a good business partner in Kenya Re http://www.businessdaily.../-/4r26sdz/-/index.html . The link reveals that it has guaranteed the business of the reinsurer for the next five years. In addition, the valuation of the counter is very low with a single digit P/E. The FY profits have been growing at a good rate in the last three years and despite the low dividend yield, the counter is a good growth stock. I intend to purchase 10,000 shares on Monday at the current price of 18.55. This will be my first investment in 2015. I will update my next buy if an opportunity arises. Happy Hunting 2015



@Mutaga, from your analysis why does this share trade at such a low PE compared to others in the same sector.

1. High government shareholding
2. Low dividend yield

Those are my reasons. You should also note that Kenya Re engages in a special kind of insurance business unlike your typical insurance company. Kenya Re's clients are corporate clients and perhaps investors like businesses whose clients are the mass market AKA Wanjiku. However, the business makes money and I personally hardly care how it makes the money as long as it makes profits every year and its profitability remains in an upward trajectory. I only have a basic understanding of the reinsurance business, nothing beyond the ordinary.


Thanks, CIC trades at a PE that is X5 that of Kenya RE and Kennya Re trades at almost a third of the sector PE

i know you have said it is not exactly comparable with the other insurance companies

i wish we could see how in the past its PE compared with the other insurance companies

why does this jubilee government keep such huge shareholding in this company?

It sold part of its stake to the public during the Kenya Re IPO. The government loves control especially in companies without another anchor shareholder. In Kenya Re's case, the government is the main shareholder.
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
Gatheuzi
#108 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 12:20:17 PM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 8/16/2009
Posts: 994
heri wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
heri wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
After she staying in the sidelines for two months, I have finally decided to invest in stocks once again, because I have spotted a good long term opportunity. My first investment of the year will be Kenya Re, starting Monday.
Activity 1:
Kenya Reinsurance:- It turns out that having a majority shareholding by uncle Sam has some advantages too. Ironically, unlike in other firms, the government is a good business partner in Kenya Re http://www.businessdaily.../-/4r26sdz/-/index.html . The link reveals that it has guaranteed the business of the reinsurer for the next five years. In addition, the valuation of the counter is very low with a single digit P/E. The FY profits have been growing at a good rate in the last three years and despite the low dividend yield, the counter is a good growth stock. I intend to purchase 10,000 shares on Monday at the current price of 18.55. This will be my first investment in 2015. I will update my next buy if an opportunity arises. Happy Hunting 2015



@Mutaga, from your analysis why does this share trade at such a low PE compared to others in the same sector.

1. High government shareholding
2. Low dividend yield

Those are my reasons. You should also note that Kenya Re engages in a special kind of insurance business unlike your typical insurance company. Kenya Re's clients are corporate clients and perhaps investors like businesses whose clients are the mass market AKA Wanjiku. However, the business makes money and I personally hardly care how it makes the money as long as it makes profits every year and its profitability remains in an upward trajectory. I only have a basic understanding of the reinsurance business, nothing beyond the ordinary.


Thanks, CIC trades at a PE that is X5 that of Kenya RE and Kennya Re trades at almost a third of the sector PE

i know you have said it is not exactly comparable with the other insurance companies

i wish we could see how in the past its PE compared with the other insurance companies

why does this jubilee government keep such huge shareholding in this company?


Past PE's of KRE based on end year prices are;

Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
mkonomtupu
#109 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 1:18:18 PM
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Joined: 2/10/2010
Posts: 1,001
Location: River Road
heri wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
After she staying in the sidelines for two months, I have finally decided to invest in stocks once again, because I have spotted a good long term opportunity. My first investment of the year will be Kenya Re, starting Monday.
Activity 1:
Kenya Reinsurance:- It turns out that having a majority shareholding by uncle Sam has some advantages too. Ironically, unlike in other firms, the government is a good business partner in Kenya Re http://www.businessdaily.../-/4r26sdz/-/index.html . The link reveals that it has guaranteed the business of the reinsurer for the next five years. In addition, the valuation of the counter is very low with a single digit P/E. The FY profits have been growing at a good rate in the last three years and despite the low dividend yield, the counter is a good growth stock. I intend to purchase 10,000 shares on Monday at the current price of 18.55. This will be my first investment in 2015. I will update my next buy if an opportunity arises. Happy Hunting 2015



@Mutaga, from your analysis why does this share trade at such a low PE compared to others in the same sector.


Reinsurance is the business of insuring insurance policies and Kenya Re is only listed company so you have little to compare with unless you are an industry insider. Reinsurance is a risky technical business and you must first understand the risk profile. What is the risk of the underwritten policies?

Kenya Re has a rating of B+ while its competitor Africa Re has A- so Africa Re pulls in more business. Until the day it moves to A rating then the low PE is justified
heri
#110 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 1:24:25 PM
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Joined: 9/14/2011
Posts: 834
Location: nairobi
mkonomtupu wrote:
heri wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
After she staying in the sidelines for two months, I have finally decided to invest in stocks once again, because I have spotted a good long term opportunity. My first investment of the year will be Kenya Re, starting Monday.
Activity 1:
Kenya Reinsurance:- It turns out that having a majority shareholding by uncle Sam has some advantages too. Ironically, unlike in other firms, the government is a good business partner in Kenya Re http://www.businessdaily.../-/4r26sdz/-/index.html . The link reveals that it has guaranteed the business of the reinsurer for the next five years. In addition, the valuation of the counter is very low with a single digit P/E. The FY profits have been growing at a good rate in the last three years and despite the low dividend yield, the counter is a good growth stock. I intend to purchase 10,000 shares on Monday at the current price of 18.55. This will be my first investment in 2015. I will update my next buy if an opportunity arises. Happy Hunting 2015



@Mutaga, from your analysis why does this share trade at such a low PE compared to others in the same sector.


Reinsurance is the business of insuring insurance policies and Kenya Re is only listed company so you have little to compare with unless you are an industry insider. Reinsurance is a risky technical business and you must first understand the risk profile. What is the risk of the underwritten policies?

Kenya Re has a rating of B+ while its competitor Africa Re has A- so Africa Re pulls in more business. Until the day it moves to A rating then the low PE is justified



thanks alot. and do you know how Africa Re PE has been like?
heri
#111 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 1:27:17 PM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
heri wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
heri wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
After she staying in the sidelines for two months, I have finally decided to invest in stocks once again, because I have spotted a good long term opportunity. My first investment of the year will be Kenya Re, starting Monday.
Activity 1:
Kenya Reinsurance:- It turns out that having a majority shareholding by uncle Sam has some advantages too. Ironically, unlike in other firms, the government is a good business partner in Kenya Re http://www.businessdaily.../-/4r26sdz/-/index.html . The link reveals that it has guaranteed the business of the reinsurer for the next five years. In addition, the valuation of the counter is very low with a single digit P/E. The FY profits have been growing at a good rate in the last three years and despite the low dividend yield, the counter is a good growth stock. I intend to purchase 10,000 shares on Monday at the current price of 18.55. This will be my first investment in 2015. I will update my next buy if an opportunity arises. Happy Hunting 2015



@Mutaga, from your analysis why does this share trade at such a low PE compared to others in the same sector.

1. High government shareholding
2. Low dividend yield

Those are my reasons. You should also note that Kenya Re engages in a special kind of insurance business unlike your typical insurance company. Kenya Re's clients are corporate clients and perhaps investors like businesses whose clients are the mass market AKA Wanjiku. However, the business makes money and I personally hardly care how it makes the money as long as it makes profits every year and its profitability remains in an upward trajectory. I only have a basic understanding of the reinsurance business, nothing beyond the ordinary.


Thanks, CIC trades at a PE that is X5 that of Kenya RE and Kennya Re trades at almost a third of the sector PE

i know you have said it is not exactly comparable with the other insurance companies

i wish we could see how in the past its PE compared with the other insurance companies

why does this jubilee government keep such huge shareholding in this company?


Past PE's of KRE based on end year prices are;



@Gatheuzi, thanks. I can see the PE has always been at low levels. so am not expecting it to change much unless something changes like the shareholding and dividend yield as indicated above
Shak
#112 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:16:57 PM
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Looks like Jimnah Mbaru's predictions are coming to pass
mwekez@ji
#113 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:31:56 PM
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Joined: 5/31/2011
Posts: 5,121
Shak wrote:
Looks like Jimnah Mbaru's predictions are coming to pass

Which were?
VituVingiSana
#114 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:19:23 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,134
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heri wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
heri wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
heri wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
After she staying in the sidelines for two months, I have finally decided to invest in stocks once again, because I have spotted a good long term opportunity. My first investment of the year will be Kenya Re, starting Monday.
Activity 1:
Kenya Reinsurance:- It turns out that having a majority shareholding by uncle Sam has some advantages too. Ironically, unlike in other firms, the government is a good business partner in Kenya Re http://www.businessdaily.../-/4r26sdz/-/index.html . The link reveals that it has guaranteed the business of the reinsurer for the next five years. In addition, the valuation of the counter is very low with a single digit P/E. The FY profits have been growing at a good rate in the last three years and despite the low dividend yield, the counter is a good growth stock. I intend to purchase 10,000 shares on Monday at the current price of 18.55. This will be my first investment in 2015. I will update my next buy if an opportunity arises. Happy Hunting 2015



@Mutaga, from your analysis why does this share trade at such a low PE compared to others in the same sector.

1. High government shareholding
2. Low dividend yield

Those are my reasons. You should also note that Kenya Re engages in a special kind of insurance business unlike your typical insurance company. Kenya Re's clients are corporate clients and perhaps investors like businesses whose clients are the mass market AKA Wanjiku. However, the business makes money and I personally hardly care how it makes the money as long as it makes profits every year and its profitability remains in an upward trajectory. I only have a basic understanding of the reinsurance business, nothing beyond the ordinary.


Thanks, CIC trades at a PE that is X5 that of Kenya RE and Kennya Re trades at almost a third of the sector PE

i know you have said it is not exactly comparable with the other insurance companies

i wish we could see how in the past its PE compared with the other insurance companies

why does this jubilee government keep such huge shareholding in this company?


Past PE's of KRE based on end year prices are;



@Gatheuzi, thanks. I can see the PE has always been at low levels. so am not expecting it to change much unless something changes like the shareholding and dividend yield as indicated above

GoK's ownership [& control over key appointments] remains a concern but on all other metrics this is a long-term winner. The question is what discount should we give KenRe coz of GoK's 60% stake?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
whiteowl
#115 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:38:23 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Shak wrote:
Looks like Jimnah Mbaru's predictions are coming to pass

Which were?

he said things will be "interesting" this year which doesn't qualify as a prediction. Can someone did up that tweet if it's still live.
kayhara
#116 Posted : Wednesday, June 10, 2015 9:37:16 PM
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Wakubwa mlisema aje juu ya EAGGADS? I can see it is at it's 52 weeks lowest, tempted to jumpin.
To Each His Own
Gatheuzi
#117 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 7:01:37 AM
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Joined: 8/16/2009
Posts: 994
whiteowl wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Shak wrote:
Looks like Jimnah Mbaru's predictions are coming to pass

Which were?

he said things will be "interesting" this year which doesn't qualify as a prediction. Can someone did up that tweet if it's still live.


Check page 2 of this thread post #28.
KondooEconomist wrote:


Discuss

Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
mwekez@ji
#118 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 9:17:52 AM
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Joined: 5/31/2011
Posts: 5,121
Gatheuzi wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Shak wrote:
Looks like Jimnah Mbaru's predictions are coming to pass

Which were?

he said things will be "interesting" this year which doesn't qualify as a prediction. Can someone did up that tweet if it's still live.


Check page 2 of this thread post #28.
KondooEconomist wrote:


Discuss


Indeed. That doesn't qualify as a prediction.
Ericsson
#119 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:59:33 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,703
Location: NAIROBI
Market today is quiet as people wait for the budget speech to know what other death knell will be spelt out to Kenyan consumers
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
mkonomtupu
#120 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 11:05:51 AM
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Joined: 2/10/2010
Posts: 1,001
Location: River Road
mkonomtupu wrote:
shrewdinvestor wrote:
Indeed the so called "experts" have failed to beat the market whereas the average trader/investor has made money out of the market.


There is something called a sideways market or a range bound market which is one tricky market because you don't know if the trend will break up or down. Sometimes it's not about beating the market, sometimes it's about protecting your nest. Rule No.1 make money and Rule No. 2 do not lose money...ni hayo tu!


Well the trend broke down...the sideways market always so trickysmile smile
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