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Muheani
#51 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:34:22 AM
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@keraka and @rahatupu. i might be able to get someone to call and assist.
Much Know
#52 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:34:45 AM
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washiku wrote:
Much Know wrote:
@keraka, don't tell anyone(even wazuan) the name of your safaricom friend under any circumstances, don't! if no one knows they will remain safe.


According to me, the info availed here is already enough to make that friend lose his job in Safcom. Especially if his day to day work does not include querying customers' number in the system.

This i don't believe is true! Just keep name secret, safaricom can do nothing, perhaps they don't really care.
Ras Kienyeji Man
Sheila
#53 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:37:24 AM
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Joined: 1/7/2010
Posts: 67
Location: NBI
Much Know wrote:
I would never do this but if you have the heart, and if the guy has switched off phone, you can ask your insider/CID for his full names and ID number only , you can then "forge" an id on coreldraw using your id and substituting numbers and names laminate it and get a new simcard replacement with his phone number. Then put it in your phone, and open an account at selfcare safaricom online(most likely he has not registered but either way password/forgot password will be sent to your phone and login is his number), you will get all his contacts plus his mpesa records and the names and numbers of those he transacts with then you can either:-
1. Use your "akili" to locate him through trickery
2. Send insults and pornographic images to his friends, give another woman to call his wife pretending to be with him and telling her to leave him alone amongst other people in phone call register and insulting them (make sure you make the stupidest calls like to his mom), the backlash will take him to safaricom but he will never be able to prove it was you who did it. This thieves either way have to be somehow shamed!



@Much Know

I love the way you think!!

Hope you will come for the next Mbuzi...would love to meet you :)
Much Know
#54 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:37:25 AM
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Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 3,579
kingfisher wrote:
Much Know wrote:
@keraka, don't tell anyone(even wazuan) the name of your safaricom friend under any circumstances, don't! if no one knows they will remain safe.


I am not interested in any names, absolutely!!!

pole mboss! elewa tu! @keraka, i can vouch for this kingfisher, i know he can help you and is a straight jamaa, lakini chunga jina tu.
Ras Kienyeji Man
Much Know
#55 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:40:26 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 3,579
Sheila wrote:
Much Know wrote:
I would never do this but if you have the heart, and if the guy has switched off phone, you can ask your insider/CID for his full names and ID number only , you can then "forge" an id on coreldraw using your id and substituting numbers and names laminate it and get a new simcard replacement with his phone number. Then put it in your phone, and open an account at selfcare safaricom online(most likely he has not registered but either way password/forgot password will be sent to your phone and login is his number), you will get all his contacts plus his mpesa records and the names and numbers of those he transacts with then you can either:-
1. Use your "akili" to locate him through trickery
2. Send insults and pornographic images to his friends, give another woman to call his wife pretending to be with him and telling her to leave him alone amongst other people in phone call register and insulting them (make sure you make the stupidest calls like to his mom), the backlash will take him to safaricom but he will never be able to prove it was you who did it. This thieves either way have to be somehow shamed!



@Much Know

I love the way you think!!

Hope you will come for the next Mbuzi...would love to meet you :)

Thanks, looking forward smile
Ras Kienyeji Man
keraka
#56 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 11:30:26 AM
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Joined: 2/24/2010
Posts: 637
Location: Nairobi
McReggae wrote:
Much Know wrote:
@keraka, don't tell anyone(even wazuan) the name of your safaricom friend under any circumstances, don't! if no one knows they will remain safe.


The system logs tracing that number can be used to tell who the friend is!!!


Dint call the safcom guy directly but somebody else called.Yea of course i wouldnt wish to expose the guy,coz i know the consequences from his employer if that happens.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
keraka
#57 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 11:38:36 AM
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Location: Nairobi
Thanks all for the great advice and keep them coming.Hope they get to help a brother and another Wazuan in future.
Meanwhile made some progress,Through a contact in a local financial institution,entry of his phone number in the system managed to get additional information here below
Name;Hiram Kiruiro Waweru
Id No:12485116
Address; P.O Box 26 Nyahururu.
The last time the CID guys tracked the number it was in Silibwet a few kms from Bomet/Tenwek.To say the least, ill not relent till i get back my money.
Kingfisher check inbox.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
King G
#58 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 11:40:40 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/20/2012
Posts: 3,855
Location: Othumo
Much Know wrote:
washiku wrote:
Much Know wrote:
@keraka, don't tell anyone(even wazuan) the name of your safaricom friend under any circumstances, don't! if no one knows they will remain safe.


According to me, the info availed here is already enough to make that friend lose his job in Safcom. Especially if his day to day work does not include querying customers' number in the system.

This i don't believe is true! Just keep name secret, safaricom can do nothing, perhaps they don't really care.


Security logs and system logs. Boss in a serious system (and i expect safaricom to be IT savvy), anything you do is recorded somewhere and filled. What guys are saying which is true is that if somebody wanted to dig up who viewed this numbers and gave out the names, they can get the person. By the way we are not saying this out of malice but educating the masses.
Thieves
washiku
#59 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 11:45:40 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 5/9/2007
Posts: 13,095
King G wrote:
Much Know wrote:
washiku wrote:
Much Know wrote:
@keraka, don't tell anyone(even wazuan) the name of your safaricom friend under any circumstances, don't! if no one knows they will remain safe.


According to me, the info availed here is already enough to make that friend lose his job in Safcom. Especially if his day to day work does not include querying customers' number in the system.

This i don't believe is true! Just keep name secret, safaricom can do nothing, perhaps they don't really care.


Security logs and system logs. Boss in a serious system (and i expect safaricom to be IT savvy), anything you do is recorded somewhere and filled. What guys are saying which is true is that if somebody wanted to dig up you viewed this numbers and gave out the names, they can the person. By the way we are not saying this out of malice but educating the masses.


@ Much Know, on this one, umenoa. Do you know something called system logs? Audit trails? You dont need the names...by the way many people could share the names, so that is not a necessity in this case, what is unique is the username...there arent two users who share the same username in the system. That, my friend, is the catch.
vky
#60 Posted : Wednesday, September 04, 2013 11:46:49 AM
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Joined: 6/17/2010
Posts: 572
Much Know wrote:
I would never do this but if you have the heart, and if the guy has switched off phone, you can ask your insider/CID for his full names and ID number only , you can then "forge" an id on coreldraw using your id and substituting numbers and names laminate it and get a new simcard replacement with his phone number. Then put it in your phone, and open an account at selfcare safaricom online(most likely he has not registered but either way password/forgot password will be sent to your phone and login is his number), you will get all his contacts plus his mpesa records and the names and numbers of those he transacts with then you can either:-
1. Use your "akili" to locate him through trickery
2. Send insults and pornographic images to his friends, give another woman to call his wife pretending to be with him and telling her to leave him alone amongst other people in phone call register and insulting them (make sure you make the stupidest calls like to his mom), the backlash will take him to safaricom but he will never be able to prove it was you who did it. This thieves either way have to be somehow shamed!

unless i am getting you wrong, your logic will fail at the sim replacement phase being that you will have his mame and ID details only but for you to replace the sim you will need his pin number that is on the the card that comes with the sim card and in absence of this they will ask you a host of questions to verify the line as yours some of them being m pesa secret word and m pesa pin if you dont have this info you wont replace the line
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