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Pan Africa Insurance 1H13 PAT jumps 266%
mibbz
#51 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2013 1:47:50 PM
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We are firmly in the 70s with a high of 73 today; still a lot of head room for this stock considering its low float and expected capital gains on the back of good results.

For a long time the market was luke warm on this stock but things are looking up especially if you consider this company made 800Mil H1 2013 profits and KQ made 535Mil H1 2013 ....

To all the patient ones our time to reap is coming soon,to the Wanjikus its time to 'dandia' the bus as its leaving....

sorovi
#52 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2013 1:56:41 PM
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76 has printed.. things looking good smilesmile Applause Applause
Angelica _ann
#53 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2013 2:33:48 PM
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There is still serious head room on this share. Been a good wait.
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Kausha
#54 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2013 2:58:33 PM
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This is getting overstretched I believe.
Aguytrying
#55 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2013 9:17:26 PM
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Kausha wrote:
This is getting overstretched I believe.


were just getting started here. end of next year, time to harvest
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
guru267
#56 Posted : Friday, November 15, 2013 10:38:33 PM
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Kausha wrote:
This is getting overstretched I believe.


Fair value today = 110... Some of us started at 40bob but the march continues steadily on!!
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Deuteronomy 4:16
Kausha
#57 Posted : Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:42:27 AM
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That fair value is very wonky and based on gut estimates than the underlying book in the business. Look at pan africa's Embedded value and you will realize that the price is exegerated and highly unlikely a takeover would happen at such elevated Embedded Value multiples. At 75 the counter is trading at an approx EV multiple of 1.7 suggesting at least 50% premium to fair value.
Magnate
#58 Posted : Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:07:13 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Kausha wrote:
This is getting overstretched I believe.


Fair value today = 110... Some of us started at 40bob but the march continues steadily on!!

started at 36 .chewed a sweet dividend of 3 bob per share.sold at 60.only 2 realise the mistake.got in back again at 62,66,69 .this thing wil b driven by sentiments and promising dividend prospects rather than value.the march continues
No diagnosis,no pragnosis,no pragnosis no profit......Jesse livermore
VituVingiSana
#59 Posted : Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:58:25 PM
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Kausha wrote:
That fair value is very wonky and based on gut estimates than the underlying book in the business. Look at pan africa's Embedded value and you will realize that the price is exegerated and highly unlikely a takeover would happen at such elevated Embedded Value multiples. At 75 the counter is trading at an approx EV multiple of 1.7 suggesting at least 50% premium to fair value.
Speculation cannot be fought. We can't sell short. And until Sanlam gets its 60% (or is it 75%) there is little one can do. Once it has what it wants, the price will probably stagnate. I would rather buy Britam for the long-haul.

As Warren Buffett says. In the long term, the market is a weighing machine not a popularity contest.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Magnate
#60 Posted : Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:27:14 PM
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mibbz wrote:
We are firmly in the 70s with a high of 73 today; still a lot of head room for this stock considering its low float and expected capital gains on the back of good results.

For a long time the market was luke warm on this stock but things are looking up especially if you consider this company made 800Mil H1 2013 profits and KQ made 535Mil H1 2013 ....

To all the patient ones our time to reap is coming soon,to the Wanjikus its time to 'dandia' the bus as its leaving....



@mibbz ..mboss are you watching this...ka lada
No diagnosis,no pragnosis,no pragnosis no profit......Jesse livermore
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