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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:@tycho - Ah,that is a truth I leave to God.If you can't doubt yourself and your existence,the question remains,who or what created you.
/@josiah33 - Interesting. I need to study that slowly. If the truth about the self cannot be established, can the truth about anything else be established? At that point it will not be truth but perception!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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McReggae wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:@tycho - Ah,that is a truth I leave to God.If you can't doubt yourself and your existence,the question remains,who or what created you.
/@josiah33 - Interesting. I need to study that slowly. If the truth about the self cannot be established, can the truth about anything else be established? At that point it will not be truth but perception!!! Can we say perception has an aim?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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McReggae wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:@tycho - Ah,that is a truth I leave to God.If you can't doubt yourself and your existence,the question remains,who or what created you.
/@josiah33 - Interesting. I need to study that slowly. If the truth about the self cannot be established, can the truth about anything else be established? At that point it will not be truth but perception!!! Is perception confined to the mind of the individual or the spirit of the body? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:@tycho - Ah,that is a truth I leave to God.If you can't doubt yourself and your existence,the question remains,who or what created you.
/@josiah33 - Interesting. I need to study that slowly. If the truth about the self cannot be established, can the truth about anything else be established? At that point it will not be truth but perception!!! Is perception confined to the mind of the individual or the spirit of the body? @Impunity - Thanks. McReggae entered with a checkmate. I'll get back to those two when I get an answer. Perception is not confined to the mind or spirit.It is inclusive of both,whether we are aware of it or not. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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ChessMaster wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:@tycho - Ah,that is a truth I leave to God.If you can't doubt yourself and your existence,the question remains,who or what created you.
/@josiah33 - Interesting. I need to study that slowly. If the truth about the self cannot be established, can the truth about anything else be established? At that point it will not be truth but perception!!! Is perception confined to the mind of the individual or the spirit of the body? @Impunity - Thanks. McReggae entered with a checkmate. I'll get back to those two when I get an answer. Perception is not confined to the mind or spirit.It is inclusive of both,whether we are aware of it or not. If truth about the Self cannot be established, then words like 'Spirit' or 'Mind' do not represent truth, but are socially constructed symbols that represent certain perceptions.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:@tycho - Ah,that is a truth I leave to God.If you can't doubt yourself and your existence,the question remains,who or what created you.
/@josiah33 - Interesting. I need to study that slowly. If the truth about the self cannot be established, can the truth about anything else be established? At that point it will not be truth but perception!!! Is perception confined to the mind of the individual or the spirit of the body? @Impunity - Thanks. McReggae entered with a checkmate. I'll get back to those two when I get an answer. Perception is not confined to the mind or spirit.It is inclusive of both,whether we are aware of it or not. If truth about the Self cannot be established, then words like 'Spirit' or 'Mind' do not represent truth, but are socially constructed symbols that represent certain perceptions. The mind is the center of our current existence.As of now,proof of the spirit can be said to be perception since we can't analyze the presence of the spirit. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:@tycho - Ah,that is a truth I leave to God.If you can't doubt yourself and your existence,the question remains,who or what created you.
/@josiah33 - Interesting. I need to study that slowly. If the truth about the self cannot be established, can the truth about anything else be established? At that point it will not be truth but perception!!! Is perception confined to the mind of the individual or the spirit of the body? @Impunity - Thanks. McReggae entered with a checkmate. I'll get back to those two when I get an answer. Perception is not confined to the mind or spirit.It is inclusive of both,whether we are aware of it or not. If truth about the Self cannot be established, then words like 'Spirit' or 'Mind' do not represent truth, but are socially constructed symbols that represent certain perceptions. The mind is the center of our current existence.As of now,proof of the spirit can be said to be perception since we can't analyze the presence of the spirit. Since our existence is a matter of perception, then the mind must also be about perceptions. We need to get the aim of perception now.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:@tycho - Ah,that is a truth I leave to God.If you can't doubt yourself and your existence,the question remains,who or what created you.
/@josiah33 - Interesting. I need to study that slowly. If the truth about the self cannot be established, can the truth about anything else be established? At that point it will not be truth but perception!!! Is perception confined to the mind of the individual or the spirit of the body? @Impunity - Thanks. McReggae entered with a checkmate. I'll get back to those two when I get an answer. Perception is not confined to the mind or spirit.It is inclusive of both,whether we are aware of it or not. If truth about the Self cannot be established, then words like 'Spirit' or 'Mind' do not represent truth, but are socially constructed symbols that represent certain perceptions. The mind is the center of our current existence.As of now,proof of the spirit can be said to be perception since we can't analyze the presence of the spirit. Since our existence is a matter of perception, then the mind must also be about perceptions. We need to get the aim of perception now. We will pick it from here tomorrow. Have a good evening fellow philosophers.  Portfolio: Sold
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:@tycho - Ah,that is a truth I leave to God.If you can't doubt yourself and your existence,the question remains,who or what created you.
/@josiah33 - Interesting. I need to study that slowly. If the truth about the self cannot be established, can the truth about anything else be established? At that point it will not be truth but perception!!! Is perception confined to the mind of the individual or the spirit of the body? @Impunity - Thanks. McReggae entered with a checkmate. I'll get back to those two when I get an answer. Perception is not confined to the mind or spirit.It is inclusive of both,whether we are aware of it or not. If truth about the Self cannot be established, then words like 'Spirit' or 'Mind' do not represent truth, but are socially constructed symbols that represent certain perceptions. The mind is the center of our current existence.As of now,proof of the spirit can be said to be perception since we can't analyze the presence of the spirit. Since our existence is a matter of perception, then the mind must also be about perceptions. We need to get the aim of perception now. The aim of perception is to protect the "I" concept of ourself. Otherwise how would we be able to deal with the question of our very own existence.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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josiah33 wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:Impunity wrote:McReggae wrote:tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:@tycho - Ah,that is a truth I leave to God.If you can't doubt yourself and your existence,the question remains,who or what created you.
/@josiah33 - Interesting. I need to study that slowly. If the truth about the self cannot be established, can the truth about anything else be established? At that point it will not be truth but perception!!! Is perception confined to the mind of the individual or the spirit of the body? @Impunity - Thanks. McReggae entered with a checkmate. I'll get back to those two when I get an answer. Perception is not confined to the mind or spirit.It is inclusive of both,whether we are aware of it or not. If truth about the Self cannot be established, then words like 'Spirit' or 'Mind' do not represent truth, but are socially constructed symbols that represent certain perceptions. The mind is the center of our current existence.As of now,proof of the spirit can be said to be perception since we can't analyze the presence of the spirit. Since our existence is a matter of perception, then the mind must also be about perceptions. We need to get the aim of perception now. The aim of perception is to protect "I" concept of ourself. Otherwise how would we be able to deal with the very question of our very own existence. @Impunity - Have a good evening too @tycho - The brain receives stimuli which the mind tries to give meaning through perception.@josiah33 has said it perception helps to deal with our existence. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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