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ChessMaster
#51 Posted : Monday, November 26, 2012 11:56:24 PM
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tycho - a pawn has no choice but to move forward.When and if it reaches its goal it becomes a superior piece on the board.This is what I get,man has no other place to go but forward.To reach new levels and become superior than his current state of being.Never thought of it like that. I don't know the esoteric meaning of chess to the illuminati but if you find any tell me. I know the chess/checker board is important to the freemasons to symbolize duality like yin-yang. It's is many music videos/movies/photos basically if you're researching on the esoteric you can't miss bumping into it.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
bigbossman
#52 Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 7:04:39 AM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
What does man God mean?I'm not getting that


What happens when your pawn gets to your enemy's back rank?

What force takes the pawn there? (hint: Steinitz's 'lust' for 'expansion'?)

P.s. Since I am not answering this question for the first time, I have decided to have as many variations of the answer as possible. Now I am looking at the idea that chess has an esoteric meaning.

Was it just by coincidence that u decided to use chess to explain the meaning of God Man or the username of the asker inspired you?
LIFE IS SO GOOD
ChessMaster
#53 Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:28:17 AM
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Tycho talks in parables and I like parables because they make me think for the answer myself. I guess using my name was his preference this time.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
bigbossman
#54 Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:57:29 AM
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ChessMaster wrote:
Tycho talks in parables and I like parables because they make me think for the answer myself. I guess using my name was his preference this time.

Yeah! since u are chessmaster the best way to explain things to u was using the language of chess.
LIFE IS SO GOOD
bigbossman
#55 Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:59:33 AM
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And the Illuminati has a depopulation agenda too-they want to decrease the earth's population by 90% as they pursue their NEW WORLD ORDER.
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tycho
#56 Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:46:27 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
tycho - a pawn has no choice but to move forward.When and if it reaches its goal it becomes a superior piece on the board.This is what I get,man has no other place to go but forward.To reach new levels and become superior than his current state of being.Never thought of it like that. I don't know the esoteric meaning of chess to the illuminati but if you find any tell me. I know the chess/checker board is important to the freemasons to symbolize duality like yin-yang. It's is many music videos/movies/photos basically if you're researching on the esoteric you can't miss bumping into it.


You have thought well @ChessMaster. And thank you for inviting me to share the results of my research with you.

What am about to tell you is not what the 'illuminati' understand about chess, but is more of my own synthesis and application of my research, prayer and meditation, and fortunately, my experiences as a player. But I will address the Illuminati issue as you have requested.

The game of chess is played on the 'Mosaic' board. Moses means Torah, and Torah, Genesis, and Genesis, essence. Therefore chess is the game of essence.

The physical objects used for play have for each, material and spiritual qualities, and though their field of play is finite in physical terms, the dynamics of the game spread into infinity and eternity.

The game, and the field are both dualistic and monistic. Perception and truth; relative, and absolute.

The aim of the game is to move from a lower state of equilibrium to a higher one through creating, and consequently, experiencing disequilibrium. Disequilibrium is created by movement and positioning. Capturing is killing.

Ideally, the game is to be characterized by wisdom, force and beauty. The Trinity.

Wisdom in calculation and positioning, force of material and capture, and beauty in the fluidity of execution.

Seeing this is illumination, and playing is construction. Hence the connection between Freemasonry and the Illuminati.

The father of illuminism was a Jesuit scholar who wanted to vanquish not just authoritarianism but also resistance.

The radical nature of illuminism had its way in the French revolution, and a King was decapitated.

The Illuminati became a grave threat not just to the Vatican, but also to itself. In fact, it destroyed itself before it was destroyed.

Hence illuminism is a style of play that goes against rules of nature and essence. Hence the association of the French revolutionaries with 'Metaphysical rebellion' as shown by Camus in 'The rebel'.

There may be other players who prefer this style of play. They may cause great harm, but their endeavours are short lived, and with proper education of the masses and good government they are easy to defeat.

ChessMaster
#57 Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:33:00 PM
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@bigbossman - You should find this very interesting Georgia Guide Stones - American Stonehenge

@tycho - You've made my day.I like freshly baked ideas and thoughts. I love this
tycho wrote:


The game, and the field are both dualistic and monistic. Perception and truth; relative, and absolute.

The aim of the game is to move from a lower state of equilibrium to a higher one through creating, and consequently, experiencing disequilibrium. Disequilibrium is created by movement and positioning. Capturing is killing.

Applause Applause Applause

.You've also said something very interesting.
tycho wrote:
Seeing this is illumination


Ironically people become illuminated while trying to understand the illuminati and its goals. For me illumination is what Jesus says about eyes and sight,ears and hearing. I find it to be an interesting way for the illuminati to recruit people because you end up learning about them and their ways though what you become is on you.

By any chance have you read the book of enoch. Jude 1:14 refers to it though it's not contained in the bible. I have something else for you to think about. When Eve gave birth to Cain, she said "I have created a man just as the Lord did." Could this be a possible problem in the heavens.Man compared to the angels is inferior but had an indirect way to bring souls forth to the world which by Eve's words is a big deal.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
AlphDoti
#58 Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:02:32 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:

By any chance have you read the book of enoch. Jude 1:14 refers to it though it's not contained in the bible...

Is it fair to push @tycho farther in uncertainty! If it is not in the Bible, where is it? The scholars took it out. Man-making Pray
ChessMaster wrote:
...When Eve gave birth to Cain, she said "I have created a man just as the Lord did." Could this be a possible problem in the heavens.

Since this blasphemy, then you and me can only conclude that Eve didn't mean it that way coz she knew God created her. But now you're saying she knew she "created" another being without realizing that this is called "giving birth". Does it mean Adam was not taught the word "give birth" by God! I doubt Shame on you
ChessMaster wrote:
Man compared to the angels is inferior but had an indirect way to bring souls forth to the world which by Eve's words is a big deal.

Actually angels are juniors to man as far as rank is concerned because of knowledge. But if you are talking of other areas, then angels are superior.
Proof: in the work place, we have young jumiors who are bosses to some old folks because of knowledge.
ChessMaster
#59 Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:26:09 PM
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They forgot to leave a rink to that book. Just use a bit of google-foo and you'll get the book.I brought up the book because the story of the fall of the angels is explained there. For me its not blasphemy or that was not my intention. My view is, God gave man a gift which in my opinion the angels were not given. We bring new life through his grace to the world and universe which in what I know the angels shouldn't. Now this is where I was asking the question, could this honor bestowed upon man be one reason some angels rebelled?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
AlphDoti
#60 Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 6:08:42 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
...My view is, God gave man a gift which in my opinion the angels were not given. We bring new life through his grace to the world and universe which in what I know the angels shouldn't.

True. God gave additional knowledge, which angels were not given. But ofcourse angels have some things we do not have.
ChessMaster wrote:
Now this is where I was asking the question, could this honor bestowed upon man be one reason some angels rebelled?

It is the nature of angels to obey.
So I guess you meant some angel-like creatures who rebelled. In this case the jinn.

You see God created angels and jinn.
- The angels do not have free will of their own, whatever God says, they believe and do.
- The jinn have free will, they can either obey God or they can disobey. Just like us human beings, we have free will.

So actually Satan, Iblis was one of the jinn. He had free will to disobey. And he rebelled.

So angels are innocent. They never disobey Shame on you
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