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Aga Khan Hospital Maternity Services
jaggernaut
#51 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:14:11 AM
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Dash wrote:
Tebes wrote:
King G wrote:
MKWASI wrote:
pariah wrote:
richdad wrote:
You are all scaring the hell out of all bachelors here....


ditto, dint know downloading was such expensive business!!!!!


That is just a drop in the ocean...wait untill you make a few more trips to those hospitals with the child after birth...You will realise where Nairobi parents invest!!



Then school fees starts at 3 years - day light robbery


And the choice of school - public primary schools out of question, Braeburn School and the likes becomes the choice. Parents start paying fees for a class one child at a rate of over Kshs 220,000 per year! Almost four times the best national school in the country (annual fees for year 7 and 8 totals kshs 414,300, note). Pray Pray Pray

Kama wanayo, no problem!! You will get many are living in their own houses already driving rage rovers and mercs even before offspring pops in. So what do they do with extra cash which is constantly flowing in? Take the kids to brookhouse (fee average200k per term Pray)
Problem comes in when a kawa middle class dude renting a house in kile is trying to keep up with the kawa dude who owns his own house in peponi drive and kids fee is probably being paid by the company he/she works in.


That is why the Kenyan middle class will always be in the rat race. Sometimes I just admire western societies. In a country like Britain (have lived there once), education is free, healthcare is free through the NHS. Mortgage rates are about 5%. Their average pay is about KES 270,000pm. A new car costs 50% what it does in Kenya. Thus the only thing a middle class person will 'worry'about is servicing the 5% mortgage. That is why even primary school teachers in the UK can afford holidays in Kenya....and get treated like gods at the 5 star hotels.

Seems the Kenyan middle class has to foot the bill for govt failures in provision of services. The world is unfair.

http://www.guardian.co.u...rst-time-buyer-mortgage
pariah
#52 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:28:46 AM
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Joined: 11/24/2011
Posts: 833
jaggernaut wrote:
Dash wrote:
Tebes wrote:
King G wrote:
MKWASI wrote:
pariah wrote:
richdad wrote:
You are all scaring the hell out of all bachelors here....


ditto, dint know downloading was such expensive business!!!!!


That is just a drop in the ocean...wait untill you make a few more trips to those hospitals with the child after birth...You will realise where Nairobi parents invest!!



Then school fees starts at 3 years - day light robbery


And the choice of school - public primary schools out of question, Braeburn School and the likes becomes the choice. Parents start paying fees for a class one child at a rate of over Kshs 220,000 per year! Almost four times the best national school in the country (annual fees for year 7 and 8 totals kshs 414,300, note). Pray Pray Pray

Kama wanayo, no problem!! You will get many are living in their own houses already driving rage rovers and mercs even before offspring pops in. So what do they do with extra cash which is constantly flowing in? Take the kids to brookhouse (fee average200k per term Pray)
Problem comes in when a kawa middle class dude renting a house in kile is trying to keep up with the kawa dude who owns his own house in peponi drive and kids fee is probably being paid by the company he/she works in.


That is why the Kenyan middle class will always be in the rat race. Sometimes I just admire western societies. In a country like Britain (have lived there once), education is free, healthcare is free through the NHS. Mortgage rates are about 5%. Their average pay is about KES 270,000pm. A new car costs 50% what it does in Kenya. Thus the only thing a middle class person will 'worry'about is servicing the 5% mortgage. That is why even primary school teachers in the UK can afford holidays in Kenya....and get treated like gods at the 5 star hotels.

Seems the Kenyan middle class has to foot the bill for govt failures in provision of services. The world is unfair.

http://www.guardian.co.u...rst-time-buyer-mortgage



some of us were born in mission hospitals and went to public shcool upto university, why do we hate it so much now? Middo crass and keeping up with the Jones.
sitaki.kujulikana
#53 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:33:39 AM
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Joined: 8/25/2012
Posts: 1,826
jaggernaut wrote:
Dash wrote:
Tebes wrote:
King G wrote:
MKWASI wrote:
pariah wrote:
richdad wrote:
You are all scaring the hell out of all bachelors here....


ditto, dint know downloading was such expensive business!!!!!


That is just a drop in the ocean...wait untill you make a few more trips to those hospitals with the child after birth...You will realise where Nairobi parents invest!!



Then school fees starts at 3 years - day light robbery


And the choice of school - public primary schools out of question, Braeburn School and the likes becomes the choice. Parents start paying fees for a class one child at a rate of over Kshs 220,000 per year! Almost four times the best national school in the country (annual fees for year 7 and 8 totals kshs 414,300, note). Pray Pray Pray

Kama wanayo, no problem!! You will get many are living in their own houses already driving rage rovers and mercs even before offspring pops in. So what do they do with extra cash which is constantly flowing in? Take the kids to brookhouse (fee average200k per term Pray)
Problem comes in when a kawa middle class dude renting a house in kile is trying to keep up with the kawa dude who owns his own house in peponi drive and kids fee is probably being paid by the company he/she works in.


That is why the Kenyan middle class will always be in the rat race. Sometimes I just admire western societies. In a country like Britain (have lived there once), education is free, healthcare is free through the NHS. Mortgage rates are about 5%. Their average pay is about KES 270,000pm. A new car costs 50% what it does in Kenya. Thus the only thing a middle class person will 'worry'about is servicing the 5% mortgage. That is why even primary school teachers in the UK can afford holidays in Kenya....and get treated like gods at the 5 star hotels.

Seems the Kenyan middle class has to foot the bill for govt failures in provision of services. The world is unfair.

http://www.guardian.co.u...rst-time-buyer-mortgage


kenya has free primary school, very cheap (subsidized) or in some cases free (NHIF) healthcare in public hospitals, very cheap home ownership.
the thing is that the middle class in kenya is very selfish and they want to compete with the rich.

if the middle class started attending to the available public facilities am sure the conditions would improve
jaggernaut
#54 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:34:25 AM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
hi middle class iko na pesa kweli, 200k plus for child birth, not counting the immunizations and the hospital visits due to homa - that,s money government employees get as a retirement lump-sum after like 30 years working.


Why not consider mission hospitals? Kijabe, St. Mary's, Kikuyu Mission, Nazareth etc? A caeserian there costs 25k. Normal birth costs 10k. As a father, i'd say many people want to complicate the child birth issue. Why pay through the nose for a 1 day affair?
essyk
#55 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:42:44 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
hi middle class iko na pesa kweli, 200k plus for child birth, not counting the immunizations and the hospital visits due to homa - that,s money government employees get as a retirement lump-sum after like 30 years working.


Why not consider mission hospitals? Kijabe, St. Mary's, Nazareth etc? A caeserian there costs 25k. Normal birth costs 10k. As a father, i'd say many people want to complicate the child birth issue. Why pay through the nose for a 1 day affair?


Applause Applause
CS comes with its own mega challenges.
Modern day women fear natural childbirth cz of stories they have heard from fellow women.
Nasty stories to say the least.

"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
QD
#56 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:51:28 AM
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Wendz wrote:
njokishk wrote:
She's is choosing elective Cesarean, since she has high blood pressure and doesn't want to risk her life and that of the unborn. with Nairobi Hospital we were told it Ksh.210,000 with their doctor and with your private doctor the charges are high depending with the doctor. How much do this private doctors (gyna) charge if you use them?


Depends on the doc. One doc i know charges 100k - current charge. and he's a good doc. Based in UHMC with rights at NH.

mMy gyna also based at UHMC charged 85,000/= for twins and has direct lines with nairobi mostly agha khan and KN was able to book the thearter at his convinience.
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
jaggernaut
#57 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:55:05 AM
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essyk wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
hi middle class iko na pesa kweli, 200k plus for child birth, not counting the immunizations and the hospital visits due to homa - that,s money government employees get as a retirement lump-sum after like 30 years working.


Why not consider mission hospitals? Kijabe, St. Mary's, Nazareth etc? A caeserian there costs 25k. Normal birth costs 10k. As a father, i'd say many people want to complicate the child birth issue. Why pay through the nose for a 1 day affair?


Applause Applause
CS comes with its own mega challenges.
Modern day women fear natural childbirth cz of stories they have heard from fellow women.
Nasty stories to say the least.



Childbirth has always been the same since the days of Adam and Eve, and has never been easy and I respect women for that. Caeserians for many years were used as last resort medical interventions to save the mother and child. But nowadays it's more of a lifestyle thing. And a whole industry has grown from it.
TAZ
#58 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:08:29 AM
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Why would you go to a mission or public hospital and pay that 25k if your Insurance can foot the 200k bill in Aga khan or Nairobi Hospital? Ati attending public facilities will improve their conditions, how now? Kenyans make all sorts of sacrifices to make sure their kids get the best that life has to offer, i believe our parents did the same thing.....People have different priorities!
MKWASI
#59 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:12:58 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
hi middle class iko na pesa kweli, 200k plus for child birth, not counting the immunizations and the hospital visits due to homa - that,s money government employees get as a retirement lump-sum after like 30 years working.


Why not consider mission hospitals? Kijabe, St. Mary's, Kikuyu Mission, Nazareth etc? A caeserian there costs 25k. Normal birth costs 10k. As a father, i'd say many people want to complicate the child birth issue. Why pay through the nose for a 1 day affair?


@jaggernaut...Cheap can also be expensive, you have no idea what women go through after the CS after they go to some of these hospitals. if it is CS I better go for an expensive hospital which I'm sure..just to be sure, I cannot gamble the life of someone. After all, how many thousands have you burnt in those so called investments. My advise is: if you can afford take your wife to the best hospital.
pariah
#60 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:29:34 AM
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just out of curiosity, who has the numbers of the number of births that occur in kenya daily? out of these, how many are in these so called 'expensive' hospitals? Then compare the safety and mortality rates. My guess is hii maneno ya elective CS, 'expensive' hospital ni kujishasha tu, if you couldnt afford it ungezalia pumwani and be fine like all other kids, bora upeleke mtoto clinic and you get attention from qualified and experienced mid wives, nurses and docs. Otherwise kulipa 200k for popping!! na salo yangu ni 30k? Okiyal, Asi!!
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