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mukiha
#51 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:53:11 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/27/2008
Posts: 4,114
3rd Reply: from CCK...

Dear Mukiha,

Please take note of the following regarding broadcast content complaints:

There are pending court cases against the CCK for which injunction was issued and which bars CCK from licensing broadcasters and therefore effectively not operationalising content regulation. The cases are yet to be determined or concluded.

The cases effectively are challenging the Broadcasting Regulations which CCK needs to use in effecting content regulation.

In its preparation to perform the content regulation task, the Broadcasting Content Advisory Council (BCAC) was constituted, and CCK developed a draft programming code and complaints handling procedure. These have been discussed by the BCAC but could not be published and operationalised following legal advise that it will constitute contempt of court. The plan is to have the code published for comments and then eventually gazette in order to enforce it (after court cases are cleared or injunction lifted). It is at this point that CCK will be able to effectively enforce the code using the complaints procedure which will also need to be operationalised at this point.

In parallel, when CCK is cleared to start licensing (including re-licensing existing players), the licenses will have conditions requiring licensees to adhere to the code and complaints procedure and then it will be easier to enforce such conditions (at the moment, the broadcasters licences have not reflected the new requirements introduced by KICA CAP 411A). With an operational code and licenses, it will be easier to enforce water shed period, etc

When content regulation becomes legally operational, the public will then be able to file complaints in accordance with the prescribed procedure for CCK, BCAC and Broadcasters to deal with as appropriate.

Otherwise the proper way of filing and dealing with content related complaints is as follows

· -if anyone is aggrieved by any content broadcasted, he/she should first make a formal complaint directly to the offending broadcaster (must keep copies of correspondence or evidence). Details must be provided in the complaint; subject, what programme, what time and date, location of listener when the program was aired (remember same station may have different content in different locations)

· -if the aggrieved party is dissatisfied with the resolution or remedy given by the broadcaster or the broadcaster does not respond within a certain timeline, then he/she can file the complaint with CCK. In filing the complaint with CCK, the complainant must produce evidence among others ; evidence that the complaint was filed with broadcaster, reason why he is dissatisfied with resolution offered, any other material evidence, etc. CCK has the right to reject all complaints that will not have first been filed with the offending broadcaster.

We have developed the forms for filing complaints together with procedure but as explained above, this is yet to be operationalised due to the litigation.

However, evidence will be required that you have complained to the broadcaster and that the broadcaster ‘s resolution is not satisfactory. It is also important that you formally complain to the broadcasters in writing instead of individuals so that you get evidence.
We hope this addresses your concern and we will close the matter.

Thank you for your request.
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
YesuWangu
#52 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:54:19 AM
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Joined: 8/11/2010
Posts: 1,588
KBC is in facebook? To those there, please check. Please.
mukiha
#53 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:55:32 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/27/2008
Posts: 4,114
In short; CCK also cannot deal with the complaint.

What to do; what to do?

I will try the Media Council, even though the last time I sent them a complaint against the Standard newspaper they did absolutely nothing, not even acknowledging the complaint... Let's see what happens this time...
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
mukiha
#54 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:02:08 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/27/2008
Posts: 4,114
Media Council does not receive email complaints; have to download complaints form, fill it, send it by post or courier and then wait...

I will do all that and see...

Anyone interested download the form here: http://www.mediacouncil....viewcategory&catid=4
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
jasonhill
#55 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:30:32 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/22/2011
Posts: 322
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Has anyone given a thought to the fact that some people may actually ENJOY playing these casinos?

Best,

Hill
mukiha
#56 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:38:09 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/27/2008
Posts: 4,114
jasonhill wrote:
Has anyone given a thought to the fact that some people may actually ENJOY playing these casinos?

Best,

Hill

Yeah; also, there are some people who enjoy drinking KMQ [Kill-Me-Quick], Machozi-Simba, and other concoctions that will kill or make them blind. Does that mean we let them?

Funny thing about human nature, we never want to stand by and watch one of our own harm themselves. That's why when my relative becomes a drug addict, the family comes around to try and sort him/her out, even if the fellow doesn't want to stop the drugs...
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
jasonhill
#57 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:43:02 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/22/2011
Posts: 322
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
mukiha wrote:
jasonhill wrote:
Has anyone given a thought to the fact that some people may actually ENJOY playing these casinos?

Best,

Hill

Yeah; also, there are some people who enjoy drinking KMQ [Kill-Me-Quick], Machozi-Simba, and other concoctions that will kill or make them blind. Does that mean we let them?

Funny thing about human nature, we never want to stand by and watch one of our own harm themselves. That's why when my relative becomes a drug addict, the family comes around to try and sort him/her out, even if the fellow doesn't want to stop the drugs...


Well you have to admit, it's quite the scam: If you get the miracle, you were obedient and faithful. If you get nothing, you lacked faith and were not in a "spirit of receiving and expectation" and are to wait on the lord and remain steadfast.

Notice that I didn't capitalize "lord" because there's just no telling what has become a "god" in such situations.

It's certainly not biblical and is quite predatory.

This is rampant in the USA. It's called "Prosperity Gospel". It's a multi-billion dollar industry. A tiny bit of bible, and a whole lot of con artistry and emotional tugging, and the money floweth. It's a great way to feed a gambling addiction, because who will argue with a "donation"?

Best,

Hill
jasonhill
#58 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:49:51 AM
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Joined: 1/22/2011
Posts: 322
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Note: I do not endorse this at all. My own mother used to give our family money away to such hucksters. So I have a special distaste for those who abuse the church in such a way.

Hill
Mtu Biz
#59 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 12:11:39 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 1/16/2007
Posts: 1,320

This is interesting.... all the accounts (on this thread) of people we know who have been roped in by these tricksters are women.

That explains some things...

I am inclined to agree with @ burning spear on this observation...that women are more.. well gullible when it comes to matters of faith/the heart.

No wonder churches, 'mainstream' or 'funy funy' are packed with women.


Sola Scriptura


Tebes
#60 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 1:17:02 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 11/26/2008
Posts: 2,097


C&P from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueXBKnfWq9k

(On NCC church structure demolitions)

Dens of thieves. This will save thousands of Kenyans who have been exploited there for years through fake prayers and miracles. If anything, the structure could have been demolished in more serious cities for killing city aesthetics. Eti panda mbegu, nunulia pastor gari, jengea pastor nyumba, someshea pastor watoto, 10%, Anania na Safira, I'm blessed with 1000 pairs of shoes, and 400 suits, blah blah blah!
"Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
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