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Wendz
#101 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2011 6:43:12 PM
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leona wrote:
@Tassia,
Ok, then maybe your way of expressing yourself is a bit misleading(potrays you quite differently). But all the same, have a lovely evening/Wknd too


@leona, do you remember someone who said.... "moving on"! may be that's what you should be doing.... just may be...

But really, i am a woman, i do not justify a man hitting a woman for whatever reason, but i think i am also intelligent enough to know that we are all wired very differently, our ability to hold on to some things are very different. When you understand your spouse, you know how to treat them. Even if part of "treating" them is leaving them... why didnt Wambui move out? if the man had refused to leave and she knew he had tried killing her 3 times previously, she owed herself some responsibility to say, look, it is not working and since you have refused to move, even if it is me paying the rent, i can pay rent elsewhere and hence, i am leaving with my child. so you really cant put all the blame on the husband. He has his share of the blame alright. There are chances that he may not have wanted to kill her in the first place, but he used unnecessary force on her and realised she was gone!

Be as it may, if you feel your spouse is violent, whether it is your wife or your husband, you dot wait for them to leave(if that's the only remaining option) if they dont want, you can also leave..... for that part, i also fault her for holding on too long! Someone here said he/she had always told her to leave him but she did not. i think that was the biggest mistake.
tassia
#102 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2011 6:47:28 PM
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leona wrote:
@Tassia,
Ok, then maybe your way of expressing yourself is a bit misleading(potrays you quite differently). But all the same, have a lovely evening/Wknd too


Okay Leona. Thanks. I will look into it. I am a believer in self evaluation.
McReggae
#103 Posted : Friday, May 13, 2011 10:18:03 PM
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Getting more clouded......
Wanaume let's love our wives,
Wanawake tupende our husbands
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
sparkly
#104 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 9:55:28 AM
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tassia wrote:
leona wrote:
@Tassia
They're very evident in your postings. You sound almost bitter in majority of your postings.


Not bitter at all. Unless you have seen my face, you cannot make that assumption. I am a straight talking guy. I don't go round and round when making a point. Enjoy your evening Leona

@tassia please do not consider this an attack on your character but your reasoning is very one dimensional. Looks like to you things are either black or white, nothing else. A young woman is dead at the hands of her lover (very sad and unfortunate). To you the lady was a victim, an angel to whom was visited great evil by dola, the devil incarnate. There can be no one else to blame, not the woman, the society, the relatives, friends or substance abuse! The truth is that we cannot explain such a crime of emotion/passion by saying that dola is evil, violent, driven by thirst for blood and so killed her, while she was an innocent defenseless victim. I think what @mcreg is reminding us is that the world is not black or white. There is grey in between, and also a full spectrum of red violet. The relationship was a tragedy waiting to happen, because of very many factors and its a pity that it ended as it did. Make no mistake however, it could have ended witn the death or maiming of dola himself.
Life is short. Live passionately.
tassia
#105 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:50:02 AM
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sparkly wrote:
tassia wrote:
leona wrote:
@Tassia
They're very evident in your postings. You sound almost bitter in majority of your postings.


Not bitter at all. Unless you have seen my face, you cannot make that assumption. I am a straight talking guy. I don't go round and round when making a point. Enjoy your evening Leona

@tassia please do not consider this an attack on your character but your reasoning is very one dimensional. Looks like to you things are either black or white, nothing else. A young woman is dead at the hands of her lover (very sad and unfortunate). To you the lady was a victim, an angel to whom was visited great evil by dola, the devil incarnate. There can be no one else to blame, not the woman, the society, the relatives, friends or substance abuse! The truth is that we cannot explain such a crime of emotion/passion by saying that dola is evil, violent, driven by thirst for blood and so killed her, while she was an innocent defenseless victim. I think what @mcreg is reminding us is that the world is not black or white. There is grey in between, and also a full spectrum of red violet. The relationship was a tragedy waiting to happen, because of very many factors and its a pity that it ended as it did. Make no mistake however, it could have ended witn the death or maiming of dola himself.


@sparkly. I am sorry you did not get my point. I have not come into the defense of anyone. How can I, when I do not know any of them. Mcreg raised issues which are very important. I guess you should be addressing those issues than be diverted by my comments regarding the way he introduced the discussion. Can Wazuan's stop being diverted by my comments and focus on the very important issues Mcreg's has presented. I also want to contribute but I find myself always responding to issues that may not have been the focus of the originator (at least according to his response). Enjoy your day sparkly.
KenyanLyrics
#106 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2011 3:29:08 PM
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But a person was killed so someone must be punished, ama? Any other point is just a case for the length of the punishment
murchr
#107 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 6:18:43 AM
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Ombeta got manslaughter for Moses. He might just walk after being in custody for 7 years
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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mkenyan
#108 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 6:54:56 AM
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murchr wrote:


Ombeta got manslaughter for Moses. He might just walk after being in custody for 7 years

he has been out on bond
gk
#109 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 6:22:31 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
murchr wrote:


Ombeta got manslaughter for Moses. He might just walk after being in custody for 7 years

he has been out on bond


Which would mean that one's better off in remand for some of these crimes. The time served there is an "investment" should you be convicted.
murchr
#110 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 6:32:23 PM
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gk wrote:
mkenyan wrote:
murchr wrote:


Ombeta got manslaughter for Moses. He might just walk after being in custody for 7 years

he has been out on bond


Which would mean that one's better off in remand for some of these crimes. The time served there is an "investment" should you be convicted.



Clearly Pray
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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kenmac
#111 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 9:29:37 PM
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murchr wrote:


Ombeta got manslaughter for Moses. He might just walk after being in custody for 7 years


well....

from case excerpts neither of the 2 was an angel in this marriage...

Whatever jail time this guy serves, it because he lacked courage to walk away.
......Ecclesiastes
sitaki.kujulikana
#112 Posted : Sunday, October 07, 2018 10:58:42 PM
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kenmac wrote:
murchr wrote:


Ombeta got manslaughter for Moses. He might just walk after being in custody for 7 years


well....

from case excerpts neither of the 2 was an angel in this marriage...

Whatever jail time this guy serves, it because he lacked courage to walk away.

I don't think we have angels in this world, but we sure do have killers, hakuna excuse hapo.
kenmac
#113 Posted : Monday, October 08, 2018 12:14:56 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
kenmac wrote:
murchr wrote:


Ombeta got manslaughter for Moses. He might just walk after being in custody for 7 years


well....

from case excerpts neither of the 2 was an angel in this marriage...

Whatever jail time this guy serves, it because he lacked courage to walk away.

I don't think we have angels in this world, but we sure do have killers, hakuna excuse hapo.


Sometimes, killing is not intentional. In the fury of the moment, one may hit another, with an intention of inflicting pain but not to kill, but the recipient ends up dead anyway.
......Ecclesiastes
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