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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
Spikes
#5901 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 6:53:38 AM
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http://www.standardmedia...awed-jet-fuel-purchases


This thing called KQ is dead.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
maka
#5902 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 8:18:52 AM
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Spikes wrote:
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/article/2000218594/how-kenya-airways-ignored-its-auditors-and-lost-billions-in-flawed-jet-fuel-purchases


This thing called KQ is dead.


Guys have eaten proper....it's so sad.
possunt quia posse videntur
VituVingiSana
#5903 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 8:35:21 AM
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Spikes wrote:
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/article/2000218594/how-kenya-airways-ignored-its-auditors-and-lost-billions-in-flawed-jet-fuel-purchases


This thing called KQ is dead.

Why state the obvious said a politician back in the day... then jomo detained him.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
HaMaina
#5904 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 9:56:50 AM
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The day KQ is termed as Dead, then I think we shall all have lost a vital part of our identity as Kenyans, and we can also just convert our currency,government, even ourselves to something else.

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“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
VituVingiSana
#5905 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 10:14:22 AM
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HaMaina wrote:
The day KQ is termed as Dead, then I think we shall all have lost a vital part of our identity as Kenyans, and we can also just convert our currency,government, even ourselves to something else.

Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

Nonsense. KQ's brand can continue under bankruptcy proceedings.
There are many USA airlines eg United, American and Delta which "restructured" under "Chapter 11 Bankruptcy & Restructuring" and kept their name/brand. Some have done this more than once.

Yes, KQ in its current format, is DEAD.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
ArrestedDev
#5906 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 1:18:14 PM
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maka wrote:
Spikes wrote:
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/mobile/article/2000218594/how-kenya-airways-ignored-its-auditors-and-lost-billions-in-flawed-jet-fuel-purchases


This thing called KQ is dead.


Guys have eaten proper....it's so sad.


Do some of you here want to tell me Ngunze who runs this airline like his property did not know this was happening.

Anyone saying Ngunze is clean going forward must be sharing the kickbacks with him. This guy is overseeing the rot in the airline instead of transformation.

Several of these findings are still going on even now. All these individuals should be kicked out like yesterday with their multi billion consultant - MCKINSEY.

Fyatu
#5907 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 2:48:52 PM
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10 years from today we might all be flying with this airline

LINK
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
obiero
#5908 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 5:53:08 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,318
Location: nairobi
Fyatu wrote:
10 years from today we might all be flying with this airline

LINK

Shindwe. Meanwhile, today's closing AVP was KES 4.20.. If only the Ngunze detractors would keep quite here, we would already have touched KES 8 on the way to Qatar's buying offer of KES 17.. Three week rally continues
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
nzalela
#5909 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 5:59:26 PM
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Joined: 4/11/2016
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Location: Nairobi

The "people problem" in KQ is now starting to manifest itself, this time it is bigger than ever and has the potential to ground the airline quicker than the financial problems. Unfortunately senior management is turning a blind eye rather than coming up with solutions, is it arrogance or just plain negligence?

Like i said before, the regulator will have to say something about the exit of engineers before year end.

The pilot exits are getting worse by the day and the offers by other airlines keep getting better. Fastjet is replacing their airbus fleet with embraer 190's you can bet they will be hunting for ready made embraer pilots from KQ with ofcourse better pay. Why incur training costs when you can just copy paste.

The most overlooked but important people the cabin crew (especially the contracted cheaper ones)have also been dealt a raw deal for the longest I am shocked they haven't yet made noise. I however foresee threats for industrial action from them before year end.

The house of cards is crumbling down, without any intervention it is tick..tock...
obiero
#5910 Posted : Thursday, October 06, 2016 6:04:16 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,318
Location: nairobi
nzalela wrote:

The "people problem" in KQ is now starting to manifest itself, this time it is bigger than ever and has the potential to ground the airline quicker than the financial problems. Unfortunately senior management is turning a blind eye rather than coming up with solutions, is it arrogance or just plain negligence?

Like i said before, the regulator will have to say something about the exit of engineers before year end.

The pilot exits are getting worse by the day and the offers by other airlines keep getting better. Fastjet is replacing their airbus fleet with embraer 190's you can bet they will be hunting for ready made embraer pilots from KQ with ofcourse better pay. Why incur training costs when you can just copy paste.

The most overlooked but important people the cabin crew (especially the contracted cheaper ones)have also been dealt a raw deal for the longest I am shocked they haven't yet made noise. I however foresee threats for industrial action from them before year end.

The house of cards is crumbling down, without any intervention it is tick..tock...

You may be right, but luckily KQ cannot be brought down by bloggers.. H1 shall be the litmus. Rise of the phoenix from dark ashes is finally here.. Someone who invested 3.3m in KQ just 20 days ago will today be counting 4.2m gross. My personal aim is not to revisit KES 126 per share.. Even KES 14 shall be good enough for my exit
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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