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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
majimaji
#5711 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 2:05:43 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2007
Posts: 1,162
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:


Ooh just to comply.

Days away..
10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ:
1. End of hedging policy
2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses
3. Rightsizing of the workforce
4. Fuel efficient planes
5. Route optimization especially in Africa
6. Category 1 status at main hub
7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out
8. Sale of non critical assets
9. Global reduction in fuel costs
10. Revival in KE tourism
11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class
12. Cleaned-up board and management
13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers. Plus recent rate cap by HE Uhuru
14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers


The only item that matters "increase sales" is missing from the list.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly You mean "increase sales faster than expenses" Applause Applause Applause
After deducting the "profits from sale of assets [land, LHR slot]", I wonder if there is anything left to write home about.


The missed another Item: Declaration of bankruptcy
Angelica _ann
#5712 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 3:52:53 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,937
majimaji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:


Ooh just to comply.

Days away..
10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ:
1. End of hedging policy
2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses
3. Rightsizing of the workforce
4. Fuel efficient planes
5. Route optimization especially in Africa
6. Category 1 status at main hub
7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out
8. Sale of non critical assets
9. Global reduction in fuel costs
10. Revival in KE tourism
11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class
12. Cleaned-up board and management
13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers. Plus recent rate cap by HE Uhuru
14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers


The only item that matters "increase sales" is missing from the list.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly You mean "increase sales faster than expenses" Applause Applause Applause
After deducting the "profits from sale of assets [land, LHR slot]", I wonder if there is anything left to write home about.


The missed another Item: Declaration of bankruptcy

That one is there (item 8 on the list) only sugar coated with lots of meaningless words including assets, which are not there!!!!!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
obiero
#5713 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 4:24:53 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,320
Location: nairobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
majimaji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:


Ooh just to comply.

Days away..
10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ:
1. End of hedging policy
2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses
3. Rightsizing of the workforce
4. Fuel efficient planes
5. Route optimization especially in Africa
6. Category 1 status at main hub
7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out
8. Sale of non critical assets
9. Global reduction in fuel costs
10. Revival in KE tourism
11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class
12. Cleaned-up board and management
13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers. Plus recent rate cap by HE Uhuru
14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers


The only item that matters "increase sales" is missing from the list.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly You mean "increase sales faster than expenses" Applause Applause Applause
After deducting the "profits from sale of assets [land, LHR slot]", I wonder if there is anything left to write home about.


The missed another Item: Declaration of bankruptcy

That one is there (item 8 on the list) only sugar coated with lots of meaningless words including assets, which are not there!!!!!!!

I made you look :)
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
ArrestedDev
#5714 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 4:38:26 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
majimaji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:


Ooh just to comply.

Days away..
10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ:
1. End of hedging policy
2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses
3. Rightsizing of the workforce
4. Fuel efficient planes
5. Route optimization especially in Africa
6. Category 1 status at main hub
7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out
8. Sale of non critical assets
9. Global reduction in fuel costs
10. Revival in KE tourism
11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class
12. Cleaned-up board and management
13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers. Plus recent rate cap by HE Uhuru
14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers


The only item that matters "increase sales" is missing from the list.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly You mean "increase sales faster than expenses" Applause Applause Applause
After deducting the "profits from sale of assets [land, LHR slot]", I wonder if there is anything left to write home about.


The missed another Item: Declaration of bankruptcy

That one is there (item 8 on the list) only sugar coated with lots of meaningless words including assets, which are not there!!!!!!!

I made you look :)


KQ is 'flying dead'. There is nothing tangible in Obiero's list. I hope this AGM is used to sack the board and the entire executive management.
muandiwambeu
#5715 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 4:53:31 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/28/2015
Posts: 1,247
Angelica _ann wrote:
majimaji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:


Ooh just to comply.

Days away..
10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ:
1. End of hedging policy
2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses
3. Rightsizing of the workforce
4. Fuel efficient planes
5. Route optimization especially in Africa
6. Category 1 status at main hub
7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out
8. Sale of non critical assets
9. Global reduction in fuel costs
10. Revival in KE tourism
11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class
12. Cleaned-up board and management
13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers. Plus recent rate cap by HE Uhuru
14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers


The only item that matters "increase sales" is missing from the list.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly You mean "increase sales faster than expenses" Applause Applause Applause
After deducting the "profits from sale of assets [land, LHR slot]", I wonder if there is anything left to write home about.


The missed another Item: Declaration of bankruptcy

That one is there (item 8 on the list) only sugar coated with lots of meaningless words including Assets, which are not there!!!!!!!

that's one keen eye. I salute you Lady AA.
if I were a creditor, I would be there with my Antony to serve my papers. I would seat between DJ and the gentleman clad in a blue suit albeit me would be in a scarlet red one n closely fashioned to isis favourite one and Texans ranger stilettos in toe. I would cause a scene close to an excerpt from the movie, desperado aka one man guitar.
,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
obiero
#5716 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 7:03:12 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,320
Location: nairobi
muandiwambeu wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
majimaji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Spikes wrote:
obiero wrote:


Ooh just to comply.

Days away..
10+ reasons to believe in operation pride atKQ:
1. End of hedging policy
2. Cut off on HOTAC and other operational expenses
3. Rightsizing of the workforce
4. Fuel efficient planes
5. Route optimization especially in Africa
6. Category 1 status at main hub
7. GoK guaranteed debt at reduced pay out
8. Sale of non critical assets
9. Global reduction in fuel costs
10. Revival in KE tourism
11. Budget carrier for booming middle-class
12. Cleaned-up board and management
13. Debt tenor restructure by main bankers. Plus recent rate cap by HE Uhuru
14. Financial revamp by transaction advisers


The only item that matters "increase sales" is missing from the list.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly You mean "increase sales faster than expenses" Applause Applause Applause
After deducting the "profits from sale of assets [land, LHR slot]", I wonder if there is anything left to write home about.


The missed another Item: Declaration of bankruptcy

That one is there (item 8 on the list) only sugar coated with lots of meaningless words including Assets, which are not there!!!!!!!

that's one keen eye. I salute you Lady AA.
if I were a creditor, I would be there with my Antony to serve my papers. I would seat between DJ and the gentleman clad in a blue suit albeit me would be in a scarlet red one n closely fashioned to isis favourite one and Texans ranger stilettos in toe. I would cause a scene close to an excerpt from the movie, desperado aka one man guitar.

LOL. Ua Anthony?? Gay much..
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
Ericsson
#5717 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 8:15:50 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,820
Location: NAIROBI
KQ In talks with several parties on stake sale
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#5718 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 8:30:37 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,371
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
KQ In talks with several parties on stake sale

With or without the debt?
I hope @VVS [& other genuine taxpayers] aren't saddled with the debts KQ owes. Lakini, this is Kenya...
The existing shareholders of KQ should be wiped out [Negative Equity]. The creditors should take a haircut after all they chose to lend to KQ.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#5719 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 8:55:28 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Ericsson wrote:
KQ In talks with several parties on stake sale


What are they selling? Their planes are on lease, EBITDA is negative, 51% must be locally held to enjoy BLTs. This is nonsense.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#5720 Posted : Monday, September 26, 2016 9:04:46 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,320
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
KQ In talks with several parties on stake sale


What are they selling? Their planes are on lease, EBITDA is negative, 51% must be locally held to enjoy BLTs. This is nonsense.

Qatar has already placed an offer.. The tragedy is to look at this in tunnel vision.. Open up the vista. KQ is a gem to Africa and the world at large. Let us see how things pan out on Thursday
COOP, IMH, KEGN, KQ, MTNU
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