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obiero
#11401 Posted : Thursday, November 22, 2018 8:25:50 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,763
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.

Barring unforeseens such as the Italian kidnap yesterday.. KQ is most likely going to report a profit by H1 2019. With or without the KAA-KQ merger or Open Offer. Thank me later


We are tired of these promises. Buy yourself more KQ and thank yourself later Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Usilete uchungu za Home Afrika hapa.. We is plural. You speak on behalf of @vvs @angelica_ann and who else?? 😜

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
VituVingiSana
#11402 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 1:14:49 AM
Rank: Chief


Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,212
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.

Barring unforeseens such as the Italian kidnap yesterday.. KQ is most likely going to report a profit by H1 2019. With or without the KAA-KQ merger or Open Offer. Thank me later


We are tired of these promises. Buy yourself more KQ and thank yourself later Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Usilete uchungu za Home Afrika hapa.. We is plural. You speak on behalf of @vvs @angelica_ann and who else?? 😜
#TukoPamoja Didn't KK help out KQ when Gulf cut off supplies?
Please do your bit and give cash to KQ so it can pay KK Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#11403 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 8:02:19 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.

Barring unforeseens such as the Italian kidnap yesterday.. KQ is most likely going to report a profit by H1 2019. With or without the KAA-KQ merger or Open Offer. Thank me later


We are tired of these promises. Buy yourself more KQ and thank yourself later Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Usilete uchungu za Home Afrika hapa.. We is plural. You speak on behalf of @vvs @angelica_ann and who else?? 😜


Sold KQ, bought HAFR do the same and thank me later.
Life is short. Live passionately.
ArrestedDev
#11404 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 10:54:17 AM
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Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.


Very good strategic move once again from Mikosz. Q300 or which type?

What about Bujumbura?

I guess the arrangement with ALS is just temporary. I predict that KQ might have to lease new Q400 with a C-class cabin to serve these regional routes. It will be very hard for some govts/ passengers to accept all economy configuration.
obiero
#11405 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 11:08:48 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,763
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.

Barring unforeseens such as the Italian kidnap yesterday.. KQ is most likely going to report a profit by H1 2019. With or without the KAA-KQ merger or Open Offer. Thank me later


We are tired of these promises. Buy yourself more KQ and thank yourself later Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Usilete uchungu za Home Afrika hapa.. We is plural. You speak on behalf of @vvs @angelica_ann and who else?? 😜


Sold KQ, bought HAFR do the same and thank me later.

Heri Kenya Power

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
obiero
#11406 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 11:10:48 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,763
Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.


Very good strategic move once again from Mikosz. Q300 or which type?

What about Bujumbura?

I guess the arrangement with ALS is just temporary. I predict that KQ might have to lease new Q400 with a C-class cabin to serve these regional routes. It will be very hard for some govts/ passengers to accept all economy configuration.

I have flown on Jambojet several times with Senators and Governors here, in a relatively much advanced country.. The Buja crowd needs to get serious. They either form an airline or deal with what is available for them..

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
snifadog
#11407 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 11:46:47 AM
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Posts: 167
Location: Nairobi
these are francophones not anglophones, the lifestyle and culture there is very different
ArrestedDev
#11408 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 11:50:08 AM
Rank: Member


Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.


Very good strategic move once again from Mikosz. Q300 or which type?

What about Bujumbura?

I guess the arrangement with ALS is just temporary. I predict that KQ might have to lease new Q400 with a C-class cabin to serve these regional routes. It will be very hard for some govts/ passengers to accept all economy configuration.

I have flown on Jambojet several times with Senators and Governors here, in a relatively much advanced country.. The Buja crowd needs to get serious. They either form an airline or deal with what is available for them..


If you want to do business with them, comply with whatever they ask.

All govts around the world have such demands which to us seems petty.
obiero
#11409 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 12:35:46 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,763
Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.


Very good strategic move once again from Mikosz. Q300 or which type?

What about Bujumbura?

I guess the arrangement with ALS is just temporary. I predict that KQ might have to lease new Q400 with a C-class cabin to serve these regional routes. It will be very hard for some govts/ passengers to accept all economy configuration.

I have flown on Jambojet several times with Senators and Governors here, in a relatively much advanced country.. The Buja crowd needs to get serious. They either form an airline or deal with what is available for them..


If you want to do business with them, comply with whatever they ask.

All govts around the world have such demands which to us seems petty.

I would understand if it was Washington or Beijing even Lagos or Joburg, but Bujumbura!!!! Comment alles vous. Je tre bien. Es travails!!!

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
obiero
#11410 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 12:47:33 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,763
Location: nairobi
snifadog wrote:
these are francophones not anglophones, the lifestyle and culture there is very different

True. The culture is something else.. We were once made to move seats at Hotel Club Du Lac, in the company of MOO.. Just because the wife of a senior state officer was having a birthday party in a nearby table..

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
sparkly
#11411 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 1:20:00 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.


Very good strategic move once again from Mikosz. Q300 or which type?

What about Bujumbura?

I guess the arrangement with ALS is just temporary. I predict that KQ might have to lease new Q400 with a C-class cabin to serve these regional routes. It will be very hard for some govts/ passengers to accept all economy configuration.

I have flown on Jambojet several times with Senators and Governors here, in a relatively much advanced country.. The Buja crowd needs to get serious. They either form an airline or deal with what is available for them..


If you want to do business with them, comply with whatever they ask.

All govts around the world have such demands which to us seems petty.

I would understand if it was Washington or Beijing even Lagos or Joburg, but Bujumbura!!!! Comment alles vous. Je tre bien. Es travails!!!


Wakitaka wapewe. So long as they pay for what is provided.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#11412 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2018 2:14:44 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,763
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.


Very good strategic move once again from Mikosz. Q300 or which type?

What about Bujumbura?

I guess the arrangement with ALS is just temporary. I predict that KQ might have to lease new Q400 with a C-class cabin to serve these regional routes. It will be very hard for some govts/ passengers to accept all economy configuration.

I have flown on Jambojet several times with Senators and Governors here, in a relatively much advanced country.. The Buja crowd needs to get serious. They either form an airline or deal with what is available for them..


If you want to do business with them, comply with whatever they ask.

All govts around the world have such demands which to us seems petty.

I would understand if it was Washington or Beijing even Lagos or Joburg, but Bujumbura!!!! Comment alles vous. Je tre bien. Es travails!!!


Wakitaka wapewe. So long as they pay for what is provided.

That's not how aviation works my good online buddy. Seat configuration aside.. An engine bsed aircraft initial costing, maintenance etc is very different from a turbo prop.. The route serves both the big bellied men as well as common man in a ratio I would put at 1:35; makes no sense to continue serving the route with an Embraer. Kigali could deserve a KQ, and UG already established its worth for KQ, but Buja wapewe JJ

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
maka
#11413 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2018 1:57:38 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.


Very good strategic move once again from Mikosz. Q300 or which type?

What about Bujumbura?

I guess the arrangement with ALS is just temporary. I predict that KQ might have to lease new Q400 with a C-class cabin to serve these regional routes. It will be very hard for some govts/ passengers to accept all economy configuration.


E 145
possunt quia posse videntur
sparkly
#11414 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2018 4:18:27 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.


Very good strategic move once again from Mikosz. Q300 or which type?

What about Bujumbura?

I guess the arrangement with ALS is just temporary. I predict that KQ might have to lease new Q400 with a C-class cabin to serve these regional routes. It will be very hard for some govts/ passengers to accept all economy configuration.

I have flown on Jambojet several times with Senators and Governors here, in a relatively much advanced country.. The Buja crowd needs to get serious. They either form an airline or deal with what is available for them..


If you want to do business with them, comply with whatever they ask.

All govts around the world have such demands which to us seems petty.

I would understand if it was Washington or Beijing even Lagos or Joburg, but Bujumbura!!!! Comment alles vous. Je tre bien. Es travails!!!


Wakitaka wapewe. So long as they pay for what is provided.

That's not how aviation works my good online buddy. Seat configuration aside.. An engine bsed aircraft initial costing, maintenance etc is very different from a turbo prop.. The route serves both the big bellied men as well as common man in a ratio I would put at 1:35; makes no sense to continue serving the route with an Embraer. Kigali could deserve a KQ, and UG already established its worth for KQ, but Buja wapewe JJ


@Obiero Burundi is just saying they like their VIPs to travel in style. Since they don't have their own airliner, they would like KQ/JJ to do the honors.

As I see it, KQ can even maintain a plane, ready with crew on tarmac for Burundi Gov as long as they pay for it.

Why can't JJ configure 1 or 2 planes as Bujumbura wants and ask the Bujumbura Government to pay for any seats not taken on the route.

Alternatively, Burundi can establish their own airline and wet lease one or two planes from KQ.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#11415 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:14:38 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,763
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.


Very good strategic move once again from Mikosz. Q300 or which type?

What about Bujumbura?

I guess the arrangement with ALS is just temporary. I predict that KQ might have to lease new Q400 with a C-class cabin to serve these regional routes. It will be very hard for some govts/ passengers to accept all economy configuration.

I have flown on Jambojet several times with Senators and Governors here, in a relatively much advanced country.. The Buja crowd needs to get serious. They either form an airline or deal with what is available for them..


If you want to do business with them, comply with whatever they ask.

All govts around the world have such demands which to us seems petty.

I would understand if it was Washington or Beijing even Lagos or Joburg, but Bujumbura!!!! Comment alles vous. Je tre bien. Es travails!!!


Wakitaka wapewe. So long as they pay for what is provided.

That's not how aviation works my good online buddy. Seat configuration aside.. An engine bsed aircraft initial costing, maintenance etc is very different from a turbo prop.. The route serves both the big bellied men as well as common man in a ratio I would put at 1:35; makes no sense to continue serving the route with an Embraer. Kigali could deserve a KQ, and UG already established its worth for KQ, but Buja wapewe JJ


@Obiero Burundi is just saying they like their VIPs to travel in style. Since they don't have their own airliner, they would like KQ/JJ to do the honors.

As I see it, KQ can even maintain a plane, ready with crew on tarmac for Burundi Gov as long as they pay for it.

Why can't JJ configure 1 or 2 planes as Bujumbura wants and ask the Bujumbura Government to pay for any seats not taken on the route.

Alternatively, Burundi can establish their own airline and wet lease one or two planes from KQ.

I was moving with you very well upto the point you said KQ to operate Burundi acquired aircraft

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
Zichi
#11416 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2018 7:48:17 PM
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Burundi waachiwe the morning flight with E90/737. Hizo frequency zingine Jambo ipewe
sparkly
#11417 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2018 8:55:53 AM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.


Very good strategic move once again from Mikosz. Q300 or which type?

What about Bujumbura?

I guess the arrangement with ALS is just temporary. I predict that KQ might have to lease new Q400 with a C-class cabin to serve these regional routes. It will be very hard for some govts/ passengers to accept all economy configuration.

I have flown on Jambojet several times with Senators and Governors here, in a relatively much advanced country.. The Buja crowd needs to get serious. They either form an airline or deal with what is available for them..


If you want to do business with them, comply with whatever they ask.

All govts around the world have such demands which to us seems petty.

I would understand if it was Washington or Beijing even Lagos or Joburg, but Bujumbura!!!! Comment alles vous. Je tre bien. Es travails!!!


Wakitaka wapewe. So long as they pay for what is provided.

That's not how aviation works my good online buddy. Seat configuration aside.. An engine bsed aircraft initial costing, maintenance etc is very different from a turbo prop.. The route serves both the big bellied men as well as common man in a ratio I would put at 1:35; makes no sense to continue serving the route with an Embraer. Kigali could deserve a KQ, and UG already established its worth for KQ, but Buja wapewe JJ


@Obiero Burundi is just saying they like their VIPs to travel in style. Since they don't have their own airliner, they would like KQ/JJ to do the honors.

As I see it, KQ can even maintain a plane, ready with crew on tarmac for Burundi Gov as long as they pay for it.

Why can't JJ configure 1 or 2 planes as Bujumbura wants and ask the Bujumbura Government to pay for any seats not taken on the route.

Alternatively, Burundi can establish their own airline and wet lease one or two planes from KQ.

I was moving with you very well upto the point you said KQ to operate Burundi acquired aircraft


Where did I say that?
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#11418 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2018 9:59:23 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,763
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.


Very good strategic move once again from Mikosz. Q300 or which type?

What about Bujumbura?

I guess the arrangement with ALS is just temporary. I predict that KQ might have to lease new Q400 with a C-class cabin to serve these regional routes. It will be very hard for some govts/ passengers to accept all economy configuration.

I have flown on Jambojet several times with Senators and Governors here, in a relatively much advanced country.. The Buja crowd needs to get serious. They either form an airline or deal with what is available for them..


If you want to do business with them, comply with whatever they ask.

All govts around the world have such demands which to us seems petty.

I would understand if it was Washington or Beijing even Lagos or Joburg, but Bujumbura!!!! Comment alles vous. Je tre bien. Es travails!!!


Wakitaka wapewe. So long as they pay for what is provided.

That's not how aviation works my good online buddy. Seat configuration aside.. An engine bsed aircraft initial costing, maintenance etc is very different from a turbo prop.. The route serves both the big bellied men as well as common man in a ratio I would put at 1:35; makes no sense to continue serving the route with an Embraer. Kigali could deserve a KQ, and UG already established its worth for KQ, but Buja wapewe JJ


@Obiero Burundi is just saying they like their VIPs to travel in style. Since they don't have their own airliner, they would like KQ/JJ to do the honors.

As I see it, KQ can even maintain a plane, ready with crew on tarmac for Burundi Gov as long as they pay for it.

Why can't JJ configure 1 or 2 planes as Bujumbura wants and ask the Bujumbura Government to pay for any seats not taken on the route.

Alternatively, Burundi can establish their own airline and wet lease one or two planes from KQ.

I was moving with you very well upto the point you said KQ to operate Burundi acquired aircraft


Where did I say that?


"Alternatively, Burundi can establish their own airline and wet lease one or two planes from KQ." I hope you don't imagine that KQ has any excess aircraft to engage in such a scenario

COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
obiero
#11419 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:43:27 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,763
Location: nairobi
Flavio used his private jet due to transit issues via Milan but his girl Naomi Campbell chose to get here via the Pride of Africa. Much needed neutralizer to the sad Silvano incident





COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 604,200 ABP 6.96; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
sparkly
#11420 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2018 11:09:23 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
maka wrote:
KQ will now lease a plane(s) from ALS for the Mogadishu route... Double daily.


Very good strategic move once again from Mikosz. Q300 or which type?

What about Bujumbura?

I guess the arrangement with ALS is just temporary. I predict that KQ might have to lease new Q400 with a C-class cabin to serve these regional routes. It will be very hard for some govts/ passengers to accept all economy configuration.

I have flown on Jambojet several times with Senators and Governors here, in a relatively much advanced country.. The Buja crowd needs to get serious. They either form an airline or deal with what is available for them..


If you want to do business with them, comply with whatever they ask.

All govts around the world have such demands which to us seems petty.

I would understand if it was Washington or Beijing even Lagos or Joburg, but Bujumbura!!!! Comment alles vous. Je tre bien. Es travails!!!


Wakitaka wapewe. So long as they pay for what is provided.

That's not how aviation works my good online buddy. Seat configuration aside.. An engine bsed aircraft initial costing, maintenance etc is very different from a turbo prop.. The route serves both the big bellied men as well as common man in a ratio I would put at 1:35; makes no sense to continue serving the route with an Embraer. Kigali could deserve a KQ, and UG already established its worth for KQ, but Buja wapewe JJ


@Obiero Burundi is just saying they like their VIPs to travel in style. Since they don't have their own airliner, they would like KQ/JJ to do the honors.

As I see it, KQ can even maintain a plane, ready with crew on tarmac for Burundi Gov as long as they pay for it.

Why can't JJ configure 1 or 2 planes as Bujumbura wants and ask the Bujumbura Government to pay for any seats not taken on the route.

Alternatively, Burundi can establish their own airline and wet lease one or two planes from KQ.

I was moving with you very well upto the point you said KQ to operate Burundi acquired aircraft


Where did I say that?


"Alternatively, Burundi can establish their own airline and wet lease one or two planes from KQ." I hope you don't imagine that KQ has any excess aircraft to engage in such a scenario


What's wrong with KQ helping Air Burundi out of dormancy?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Burundi
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