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Is Taking a Mortgage the WORST Decision Ever??
MaichBlack
#561 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2015 9:55:02 AM
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PeterReborn wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
Boris Boyka wrote:
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Kwani Mortgages are not on a fixed rate? And why the hell are you taking a 30M loan? That building better be giving you back 1M monthly

NO, NEVER! fixed rate is used on Short term asset loans like machinery and commercial cars.


Unless you are in these group of Kenyans you need not a 30M loan

@murchr - See the post above!!! 30 million, 3 million or 300k, the story is the same! Monthly payments up 54% pap!!!


If the cost of leverage is passed to Mr Landlord, then he's about to pass the same to the one renting.

Will never happen - The tenants will move! Most landlords are NOT servicing mortgages so they are not affected!

There are only about 20,000 mortgage accounts in Kenya - and those cover owner occupier, office buildings, rentals etc. What that means is that as a landlord with a mortgage, you might be the only one with a mortgage in that neighbourhood!!! If you increase the rent, you will do it alone. Next thing you know, you will have Zero tenants!!!

The demand for rental houses in Nairobi outweighs by far the supply and therefore the houses will still find tenants even with the increased rental fee.

Continue humouring yourself. And while at it, take a drive and see the number of empty units around!!!

The demand is not matched by spending power. It is more of a "want" than a demand!
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MaichBlack
#562 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2015 9:58:53 AM
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Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#563 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:00:55 AM
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MaichBlack
#564 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:02:41 AM
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Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
obiero
#565 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:10:38 AM
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I own a number of houses and the interest rate pinch has not yet been felt. The bubble cannot burst in Kenya until supply demand dynamics are equated

Boris Boyka
#566 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:11:10 AM
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Seems you haven't paid your phone rent, it has increased the ratesmile
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popat
#567 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:24:08 AM
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I think the oversupply is in the upper level segment as opposed to the middle level and low level segment.The appetite for the rental space in these two lower segments will not be saturated for the foreseeable future.Talk of estates such as O.rongai,Kahawa,kasarani,Eastlands,Mlolongo etal. Infact this has been the case for a number of years now.There are however some developers who have done "upper level" developments in either medium/low density hoods and charged them premium price to catch in on the demand.These would marginally reduce their prices without any effect on their bottom line.This may be the case with Suraya.
Othelo
#568 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:35:21 PM
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The rate increments are base lending rates and loans are given above this. Some of the interest rates are now approaching shylock levels. Unproductive and not sustainable!
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MaichBlack
#569 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:46:02 PM
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Boris Boyka wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
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Seems you haven't paid your phone rent, it has increased the ratesmile

He he he. It is Safaricom. Takes for ever then gives an error message. You click retry and post again kumbe ilutuma kitambo!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#570 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:55:51 PM
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obiero wrote:
I own a number of houses and the interest rate pinch has not yet been felt. The bubble cannot burst in Kenya until supply demand dynamics are equated

@Mike Ock had told us about houses in the rural areas taking a week or less to construct with no mortgage. Of course the owners feel no pinch!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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