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obiero
#561 Posted : Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:23:14 AM
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Horton wrote:
mulla wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Quality firm. I'll buy more!

Warren Buffett: “Long ago, Ben Graham taught me that ‘Price is what you pay; value is what you get.’ Whether we’re talking about socks or stocks, I like buying quality merchandise when it is marked down.”

Highly undervalued stock. Very lethargic with regards to share price movement. This is one of those stocks that is hibernating, but on the day investors decide that it needs to catch up with its brothers value wise, capital gains will be immense.
It should be trading at minimum 40/= if its to catch up with its peers.



Value trap

A wanting business model.. But I wish the investors all the best

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winston
#562 Posted : Saturday, September 09, 2017 10:41:28 AM
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The beauty of wazua...to each his own conviction. Reminds me of the saying...we all look at the same stars but each sees a different thing.
obiero
#563 Posted : Saturday, September 09, 2017 2:03:17 PM
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winston wrote:
The beauty of wazua...to each his own conviction. Reminds me of the saying...we all look at the same stars but each sees a different thing.

Soo true

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sparkly
#564 Posted : Saturday, September 09, 2017 6:22:51 PM
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obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
mulla wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Quality firm. I'll buy more!

Warren Buffett: “Long ago, Ben Graham taught me that ‘Price is what you pay; value is what you get.’ Whether we’re talking about socks or stocks, I like buying quality merchandise when it is marked down.”

Highly undervalued stock. Very lethargic with regards to share price movement. This is one of those stocks that is hibernating, but on the day investors decide that it needs to catch up with its brothers value wise, capital gains will be immense.
It should be trading at minimum 40/= if its to catch up with its peers.



Value trap

A wanting business model.. But I wish the investors all the best


Reinsurance is easy money. Not sexy but very easy money. I love such businesses.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Ericsson
#565 Posted : Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:12:21 PM
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The company has benefitted shareholders more than others which have sucked and drained them
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#566 Posted : Saturday, September 09, 2017 8:35:26 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
The company has benefitted shareholders more than others which have sucked and drained them

In terms of return on capital, I doubt that the company could make it in the top 20 of NSE firms over the last 10years.. But as said here by a wise wazuan, to each his own

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Ericsson
#567 Posted : Sunday, September 10, 2017 6:22:04 PM
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It's up more than 280%.
I bet there are less than 10 firms which have accomplished that.
It’s even done better than the second in rank in terms of mkt cap
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#568 Posted : Sunday, September 10, 2017 8:29:13 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
It's up more than 280%.
I bet there are less than 10 firms which have accomplished that.
It’s even done better than the second in rank in terms of mkt cap

Up 280% in which span of years? What has been the return of EQTY, KCB, COOP, SCOM, DTB, KAKUZI, WTK, CIC, CFC, KENO..

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Horton
#569 Posted : Sunday, September 10, 2017 9:25:26 PM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
mulla wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Quality firm. I'll buy more!

Warren Buffett: “Long ago, Ben Graham taught me that ‘Price is what you pay; value is what you get.’ Whether we’re talking about socks or stocks, I like buying quality merchandise when it is marked down.”

Highly undervalued stock. Very lethargic with regards to share price movement. This is one of those stocks that is hibernating, but on the day investors decide that it needs to catch up with its brothers value wise, capital gains will be immense.
It should be trading at minimum 40/= if its to catch up with its peers.



Value trap

A wanting business model.. But I wish the investors all the best


Reinsurance is easy money. Not sexy but very easy money. I love such businesses.



I agree. It's easy money. However, I'm not so sure management are great at what they do, I feel there are too many propped up profits YoY by revaluation reserves, lack of innovation and lack of the drive factor. I bet u 50 bob if the mandatory cessation was lifted, this firm will run into losses in its current form.

Please don't mistake this for Berkshire. Buffett and Munger are legends as we all agree. These chaps at KNRE are just too lethargic.

Nonetheless, this should be a good year for KNRE due to NSE performance
obiero
#570 Posted : Sunday, September 10, 2017 9:46:15 PM
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Horton wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
mulla wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Quality firm. I'll buy more!

Warren Buffett: “Long ago, Ben Graham taught me that ‘Price is what you pay; value is what you get.’ Whether we’re talking about socks or stocks, I like buying quality merchandise when it is marked down.”

Highly undervalued stock. Very lethargic with regards to share price movement. This is one of those stocks that is hibernating, but on the day investors decide that it needs to catch up with its brothers value wise, capital gains will be immense.
It should be trading at minimum 40/= if its to catch up with its peers.



Value trap

A wanting business model.. But I wish the investors all the best


Reinsurance is easy money. Not sexy but very easy money. I love such businesses.



I agree. It's easy money. However, I'm not so sure management are great at what they do, I feel there are too many propped up profits YoY by revaluation reserves, lack of innovation and lack of the drive factor. I bet u 50 bob if the mandatory cessation was lifted, this firm will run into losses in its current form.

Please don't mistake this for Berkshire. Buffett and Munger are legends as we all agree. These chaps at KNRE are just too lethargic.

Nonetheless, this should be a good year for KNRE due to NSE performance

The year isn't over boss.. Plus I couldn't agree more about the lazy business model

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