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Law Capping interest rates
newfarer
#541 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:53:47 PM
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Impunity
#542 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:54:19 PM
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Swenani wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Swenani wrote:
If the bank are going to lend at 14.5%(on reducing balance), then saccos should lend at 5%(on principal) for sacco borrowing/lending to make any economic sense.


And my fixed depsit account must earn me minimum 7%pa (70% x 10.5)

The Kenyan banks have found themselves between a rock and a hard-hot place.

If they cant lend me at 14% then they must pay at rate that is half the bank rate...7%.


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what has been the rate paid by your bank on your fixed deposit account? If you are not getting 10%, there must be something fundamentally wrong with you.


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#543 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:56:31 PM
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Swenani wrote:

you failed to act when you had the opportunity
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moneydust
#544 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:58:30 PM
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Jon Jones wrote:
This is how I expect the situation to unfold.
1. Equity, Family Bank, Co-op etc, who largely cater for Wanjiku will be the worst affected because they are technically in a riskier business. The quality of their customers is very bad i.e largely Wanjiku.
2. KCB, I&M, DTB etc that cater for the upper middle class and the affluent (for KCB it is institutions), they will be better positioned because their customers have a higher value and less risk.
Assuming two banks lend at 14.5%, Equity and I & M, I & M will have less to worry about considering the nature of its customers. This bill is a kick in the nuts of James Mwangi and Gideon Muriuki


I beg to differ,banks that have a wide footprint and bank the ordinary mwananchi will have access to deposits at almost zero cost since they will be paying nothing for the small deposits in their customer accounts. Infact the banks that will have the lowest cost on their deposits will win the coming war.
With the capping it means the battle for quality clients is on,it will all be about who can offer the lowest of the lowest interest rate to that bluechip customer.
moneydust
#545 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:04:36 PM
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Swenani wrote:
moneydust wrote:
Godspeed Mr Kibaki we shall truly remember your reign,when the NSE churned out millionaires,nowadays its just poverty and doom that reigns.

It is now worse than a fish market..kila siku ni chini kwa chini aaargh..


How are you Mr. James Mwangi?

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Shak
#546 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:09:05 PM
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I bank With Equity Bank and my salo is processed through it. I should be having a fair credit rating since I have never defaulted on a loan. However the bank through Equitel still finds it fit to charge me interest of 26pc per annum on a loan. This is the predatory behaviour that has to stop
maka
#547 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:09:59 PM
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moneydust wrote:
Jon Jones wrote:
This is how I expect the situation to unfold.
1. Equity, Family Bank, Co-op etc, who largely cater for Wanjiku will be the worst affected because they are technically in a riskier business. The quality of their customers is very bad i.e largely Wanjiku.
2. KCB, I&M, DTB etc that cater for the upper middle class and the affluent (for KCB it is institutions), they will be better positioned because their customers have a higher value and less risk.
Assuming two banks lend at 14.5%, Equity and I & M, I & M will have less to worry about considering the nature of its customers. This bill is a kick in the nuts of James Mwangi and Gideon Muriuki


I beg to differ,banks that have a wide footprint and bank the ordinary mwananchi will have access to deposits at almost zero cost since they will be paying nothing for the small deposits in their customer accounts. Infact the banks that will have the lowest cost on their deposits will win the coming war.
With the capping it means the battle for quality clients is on,it will all be about who can offer the lowest of the lowest interest rate to that bluechip customer.


Who defaults more?Wanjiku or the big guys the likes of TSS?
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Swenani
#548 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:13:54 PM
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Shak wrote:
I bank With Equity Bank and my salo is processed through it. I should be having a fair credit rating since I have never defaulted on a loan. However the bank through Equitel still finds it fit to charge me interest of 26pc per annum on a loan. This is the predatory behaviour that has to stop


Your salary in not a security, you can borrow today from equitell knowing very well you have been fired and your salary wont be coming to equity anymore.

Moreover, due to lack of information(comprehensive) by CRB's banks do not have complete information of the average borrowers like you hence the interest charged factors in the risky borrowers who will borrow at the same rate like you but default.
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mlennyma
#549 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:14:52 PM
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Shak wrote:
I bank With Equity Bank and my salo is processed through it. I should be having a fair credit rating since I have never defaulted on a loan. However the bank through Equitel still finds it fit to charge me interest of 26pc per annum on a loan. This is the predatory behaviour that has to stop

mobile loans are shylock in nature
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#550 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:18:25 PM
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I don't get this thing about banks not lending to risky individuals, what has that got to do with the level of interest rates, I thought increasing the rates for risky individuals makes it even more risky that they will default, ama how does it work, is there a trend where risky individuals default like midway thus having a higher rate will ensure they will have finished paying up loaned amount or something.
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