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Kenya Re - what gives?
obiero
#541 Posted : Friday, April 14, 2017 4:57:10 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
Horton wrote:
Kenya Re holds 70% of the reinsurance market. So even if the cessions ends, they still hold majority market share. I can see Mr. market recognizing this as the insurance sector is on the uptick.

http://www.ira.go.ke/att...0Industry%20Release.pdf

Page 30 for market share info

Problem isn't market share and stuff.. It runs deep. Remember KQ is sincerely speaking, the only airline in East Africa but still made losses totalling over KES 61B in the last three years

KQ ABP 4.26
Horton
#542 Posted : Friday, April 14, 2017 5:01:21 PM
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Joined: 8/30/2007
Posts: 1,558
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
Kenya Re holds 70% of the reinsurance market. So even if the cessions ends, they still hold majority market share. I can see Mr. market recognizing this as the insurance sector is on the uptick.

http://www.ira.go.ke/att...0Industry%20Release.pdf

Page 30 for market share info

Problem isn't market share and stuff.. It runs deep. Remember KQ is sincerely speaking, the only airline in East Africa but still made losses totalling over KES 61B in the last three years



KQ wasnt and still isnt holding market share in EA. I think problems were finance costs, too much debt and others.

What do u think is a problem here in KNRE? It has no Debt
obiero
#543 Posted : Friday, April 14, 2017 5:07:20 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
Kenya Re holds 70% of the reinsurance market. So even if the cessions ends, they still hold majority market share. I can see Mr. market recognizing this as the insurance sector is on the uptick.

http://www.ira.go.ke/att...0Industry%20Release.pdf

Page 30 for market share info

Problem isn't market share and stuff.. It runs deep. Remember KQ is sincerely speaking, the only airline in East Africa but still made losses totalling over KES 61B in the last three years



KQ wasnt and still isnt holding market share in EA. I think problems were finance costs, too much debt and others.

What do u think is a problem here in KNRE? It has no Debt

GoK influence in the csuite

KQ ABP 4.26
sparkly
#544 Posted : Sunday, April 16, 2017 8:20:36 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
Kenya Re holds 70% of the reinsurance market. So even if the cessions ends, they still hold majority market share. I can see Mr. market recognizing this as the insurance sector is on the uptick.

http://www.ira.go.ke/att...0Industry%20Release.pdf

Page 30 for market share info

Problem isn't market share and stuff.. It runs deep. Remember KQ is sincerely speaking, the only airline in East Africa but still made losses totalling over KES 61B in the last three years

Why are we discussing KQ on this thread?
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#545 Posted : Sunday, April 16, 2017 10:31:31 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
Kenya Re holds 70% of the reinsurance market. So even if the cessions ends, they still hold majority market share. I can see Mr. market recognizing this as the insurance sector is on the uptick.

http://www.ira.go.ke/att...0Industry%20Release.pdf

Page 30 for market share info

Problem isn't market share and stuff.. It runs deep. Remember KQ is sincerely speaking, the only airline in East Africa but still made losses totalling over KES 61B in the last three years

Why are we discussing KQ on this thread?

KQ was even brought up in the Centum thread! And in the KK thread. Some folks can't handle profitable firms! 😂😂😂
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#546 Posted : Monday, April 17, 2017 8:19:36 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
Kenya Re holds 70% of the reinsurance market. So even if the cessions ends, they still hold majority market share. I can see Mr. market recognizing this as the insurance sector is on the uptick.

http://www.ira.go.ke/att...0Industry%20Release.pdf

Page 30 for market share info

Problem isn't market share and stuff.. It runs deep. Remember KQ is sincerely speaking, the only airline in East Africa but still made losses totalling over KES 61B in the last three years

Why are we discussing KQ on this thread?

KQ was even brought up in the Centum thread! And in the KK thread. Some folks can't handle profitable firms! 😂😂😂

I saw KQ too on the Safaricom thread as well as EABL.. Maybe it's just a popular firm :)

KQ ABP 4.26
sparkly
#547 Posted : Monday, April 17, 2017 2:19:28 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
Kenya Re holds 70% of the reinsurance market. So even if the cessions ends, they still hold majority market share. I can see Mr. market recognizing this as the insurance sector is on the uptick.

http://www.ira.go.ke/att...0Industry%20Release.pdf

Page 30 for market share info

Problem isn't market share and stuff.. It runs deep. Remember KQ is sincerely speaking, the only airline in East Africa but still made losses totalling over KES 61B in the last three years

Why are we discussing KQ on this thread?

KQ was even brought up in the Centum thread! And in the KK thread. Some folks can't handle profitable firms! 😂😂😂

I saw KQ too on the Safaricom thread as well as EABL.. Maybe it's just a popular firm :)


Good investments do not attract attention and passion. The converse is true for poor investments.

Take the most discussed stocks and stocks with the longest threads on Wazua and plot them against their total returns in the last 10yrs. KQ, HAL, Mumias, Uchumi. The results will be obvious.

"You cannot make money buying what is popular" - WB applies all the time.
Life is short. Live passionately.
maka
#548 Posted : Monday, April 17, 2017 2:47:37 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
Kenya Re holds 70% of the reinsurance market. So even if the cessions ends, they still hold majority market share. I can see Mr. market recognizing this as the insurance sector is on the uptick.

http://www.ira.go.ke/att...0Industry%20Release.pdf

Page 30 for market share info

Problem isn't market share and stuff.. It runs deep. Remember KQ is sincerely speaking, the only airline in East Africa but still made losses totalling over KES 61B in the last three years

Why are we discussing KQ on this thread?

KQ was even brought up in the Centum thread! And in the KK thread. Some folks can't handle profitable firms! 😂😂😂

I saw KQ too on the Safaricom thread as well as EABL.. Maybe it's just a popular firm :)


Good investments do not attract attention and passion. The converse is true for poor investments.

Take the most discussed stocks and stocks with the longest threads on Wazua and plot them against their total returns in the last 10yrs. KQ, HAL, Mumias, Uchumi. The results will be obvious.

"You cannot make money buying what is popular" - WB applies all the time.


Well said....
possunt quia posse videntur
Ebenyo
#549 Posted : Monday, April 17, 2017 2:59:03 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/4/2016
Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
Kenya Re holds 70% of the reinsurance market. So even if the cessions ends, they still hold majority market share. I can see Mr. market recognizing this as the insurance sector is on the uptick.

http://www.ira.go.ke/att...0Industry%20Release.pdf

Page 30 for market share info

Problem isn't market share and stuff.. It runs deep. Remember KQ is sincerely speaking, the only airline in East Africa but still made losses totalling over KES 61B in the last three years

Why are we discussing KQ on this thread?

KQ was even brought up in the Centum thread! And in the KK thread. Some folks can't handle profitable firms! 😂😂😂

I saw KQ too on the Safaricom thread as well as EABL.. Maybe it's just a popular firm :)


Good investments do not attract attention and passion. The converse is true for poor investments.

Take the most discussed stocks and stocks with the longest threads on Wazua and plot them against their total returns in the last 10yrs. KQ, HAL, Mumias, Uchumi. The results will be obvious.

"You cannot make money buying what is popular" - WB applies all the time.



For traders,kq is a mincemeat.But for longterm investors,its a dead rubber.Surely i dont understand why its so much hyped here in wazua.Too much emotions is attached to it.I went through kq fy 2015 results and i really felt sorry for its financial health.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Ericsson
#550 Posted : Monday, April 17, 2017 3:00:25 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
Kenya Re holds 70% of the reinsurance market. So even if the cessions ends, they still hold majority market share. I can see Mr. market recognizing this as the insurance sector is on the uptick.

http://www.ira.go.ke/att...0Industry%20Release.pdf

Page 30 for market share info

Problem isn't market share and stuff.. It runs deep. Remember KQ is sincerely speaking, the only airline in East Africa but still made losses totalling over KES 61B in the last three years

Why are we discussing KQ on this thread?

KQ was even brought up in the Centum thread! And in the KK thread. Some folks can't handle profitable firms! 😂😂😂

I saw KQ too on the Safaricom thread as well as EABL.. Maybe it's just a popular firm :)


Good investments do not attract attention and passion. The converse is true for poor investments.

Take the most discussed stocks and stocks with the longest threads on Wazua and plot them against their total returns in the last 10yrs. KQ, HAL, Mumias, Uchumi. The results will be obvious.

"You cannot make money buying what is popular" - WB applies all the time.


Spoken like 10 elders
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