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Kenya Re - what gives?
Horton
#531 Posted : Tuesday, April 11, 2017 10:53:11 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Drool Drool Drool Drool I am waiting for another drop and I am ready to buy more. This is my "Retirement Fund" [Yes, if I sense something is shady, I will sell, even at a loss]

We know that you thrive at making losses in the NSE.. From I&M, Olympia, KQ, KENO, KENRE.. Sorry to ask, but have you ever made a monumental return in any of your holdings.. Like 100% plus

Sad Sad Sad No, coz now I only buy solid firms that make profits. No speculative stuff.
Olympia = conmen like Michael Matu. I sold out 3 years ago.
KQ = Thieves. I I sold out in 2012.

I&M, KenRe, KK [core holdings] = They are all profitable, pay dividends and have cash. Not +100% firms
but I am a Warren Buffett follower. WB says buy value and good governance. So that's what I try to do.


@VVS do what you know is best. There is a difference between speculators and investors. Investors always come thru.
One thing i dont like about this stock though is timidness fof management.
VituVingiSana
#532 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 8:03:59 AM
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Horton wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Drool Drool Drool Drool I am waiting for another drop and I am ready to buy more. This is my "Retirement Fund" [Yes, if I sense something is shady, I will sell, even at a loss]

We know that you thrive at making losses in the NSE.. From I&M, Olympia, KQ, KENO, KENRE.. Sorry to ask, but have you ever made a monumental return in any of your holdings.. Like 100% plus

Sad Sad Sad No, coz now I only buy solid firms that make profits. No speculative stuff.
Olympia = conmen like Michael Matu. I sold out 3 years ago.
KQ = Thieves. I I sold out in 2012.

I&M, KenRe, KK [core holdings] = They are all profitable, pay dividends and have cash. Not +100% firms
but I am a Warren Buffett follower. WB says buy value and good governance. So that's what I try to do.


@VVS do what you know is best. There is a difference between speculators and investors. Investors always come thru.
One thing i dont like about this stock though is timidness fof management.

Rule #1 : Don't lose money [the business. Share price fluctuations are irrelevant in the long-term when the shares are bought at fair or cheap prices vs values]
Rule #2 : Look at rule #1
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ebenyo
#533 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 9:02:01 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Drool Drool Drool Drool I am waiting for another drop and I am ready to buy more. This is my "Retirement Fund" [Yes, if I sense something is shady, I will sell, even at a loss]

We know that you thrive at making losses in the NSE.. From I&M, Olympia, KQ, KE NO, KENRE.. Sorry to ask, but have you ever made a monumental return in any of your holdings.. Like 100% plus


Since he is a long term investor,the best way to ask him is if at the end of last year;what was his annual returns in his portfolio as to a) dividends b) capital gains
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Shak
#534 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 12:42:01 PM
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In one day it's up to 20. This counter behaves like safaricom
Ericsson
#535 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:08:00 PM
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Obiero has gone quiet
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Angelica _ann
#536 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:20:39 PM
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Anytime this thing comes to 18bob better buy in loads because it will take off just like Safcom from 5 bob and you will be left with wishful thinking at the stage smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#537 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:26:27 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Anytime this thing comes to 18bob better buy in loads because it will take off just like Safcom from 5 bob and you will be left with wishful thinking at the stage smile


Even pricewise they are together (safaricom and Kenya Re).No one leaves the other far away.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#538 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:58:52 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Anytime this thing comes to 18bob better buy in loads because it will take off just like Safcom from 5 bob and you will be left with wishful thinking at the stage smile


Even pricewise they are together (safaricom and Kenya Re).No one leaves the other far away.

Hahaha

KQ ABP 4.26
Gatheuzi
#539 Posted : Wednesday, April 12, 2017 7:53:21 PM
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Joined: 8/16/2009
Posts: 994
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
Anytime this thing comes to 18bob better buy in loads because it will take off just like Safcom from 5 bob and you will be left with wishful thinking at the stage smile


Even pricewise they are together (safaricom and Kenya Re).No one leaves the other far away.

Hahaha

Ni kama bibinabwana Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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Horton
#540 Posted : Friday, April 14, 2017 4:41:02 PM
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Kenya Re holds 70% of the reinsurance market. So even if the cessions ends, they still hold majority market share. I can see Mr. market recognizing this as the insurance sector is on the uptick.

http://www.ira.go.ke/att...0Industry%20Release.pdf

Page 30 for market share info
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