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obiero
#5351 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:44:12 AM
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@arresteddev only time will tell whether KQ shall sink further
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ArrestedDev
#5352 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:50:16 AM
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obiero wrote:
@arresteddev only time will tell whether KQ shall sink further

The road to recovery is long and treacherous. A competent management is required going forward. It is evident Ngunze is not the right person. Today he says one thing and tomorrow another thing. Any gains at the operating level will be wiped out by hedging losses and finance costs.
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maka
#5353 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:05:28 AM
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ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
@arresteddev only time will tell whether KQ shall sink further

The road to recovery is long and treacherous. A competent management is required going forward. It is evident Ngunze is not the right person. Today he says one thing and tomorrow another thing. Any gains at the operating level will be wiped out by hedging losses and finance costs.


@Obiero what is the average tenor of their loans?How much are they owed?
possunt quia posse videntur
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VituVingiSana
#5354 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:49:28 AM
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Meanwhile, Ohana, at KK is doing a-OK. Ohana can even provide for claims against KPRL as GoK dithers. Plus new stations are coming up. Apparently, KK also wins OTS tenders but unlike Segman, Ohana doesn't advertise them.

Ohana doesn't supply shady airlines who can't pay their bills.

And there's an interim dividend and then a final dividend. Yes, it's a few cents but it beats making losses year in, year out.

Life is good.

* As a public service, perhaps KK can second Ohana to KQ after he completes the process of transformation of KK *
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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obiero
#5355 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:06:15 PM
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maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
@arresteddev only time will tell whether KQ shall sink further

The road to recovery is long and treacherous. A competent management is required going forward. It is evident Ngunze is not the right person. Today he says one thing and tomorrow another thing. Any gains at the operating level will be wiped out by hedging losses and finance costs.


@Obiero what is the average tenor of their loans?How much are they owed?

13 local banks have lent to KQ amounts in excess of KES 52 billion shillings. 11 banks, 7 months ago agreed to restructure the tenor from 1-3 years to 7 years. But two refused, leading to average tenor of 4 years
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VituVingiSana
#5356 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:49:46 PM
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obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
@arresteddev only time will tell whether KQ shall sink further

The road to recovery is long and treacherous. A competent management is required going forward. It is evident Ngunze is not the right person. Today he says one thing and tomorrow another thing. Any gains at the operating level will be wiped out by hedging losses and finance costs.


@Obiero what is the average tenor of their loans?How much are they owed?

13 local banks have lent to KQ amounts in excess of KES 52 billion shillings. 11 banks, 7 months ago agreed to restructure the tenor from 1-3 years to 7 years. But two refused, leading to average tenor of 4 years

Which 2 banks refused? [Smart management]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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maka
#5357 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:02:31 PM
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obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
@arresteddev only time will tell whether KQ shall sink further

The road to recovery is long and treacherous. A competent management is required going forward. It is evident Ngunze is not the right person. Today he says one thing and tomorrow another thing. Any gains at the operating level will be wiped out by hedging losses and finance costs.


@Obiero what is the average tenor of their loans?How much are they owed?

13 local banks have lent to KQ amounts in excess of KES 52 billion shillings. 11 banks, 7 months ago agreed to restructure the tenor from 1-3 years to 7 years. But two refused, leading to average tenor of 4 years


Good what is the average interest rate for the loans?
possunt quia posse videntur
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obiero
#5358 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:24:39 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
@arresteddev only time will tell whether KQ shall sink further

The road to recovery is long and treacherous. A competent management is required going forward. It is evident Ngunze is not the right person. Today he says one thing and tomorrow another thing. Any gains at the operating level will be wiped out by hedging losses and finance costs.


@Obiero what is the average tenor of their loans?How much are they owed?

13 local banks have lent to KQ amounts in excess of KES 52 billion shillings. 11 banks, 7 months ago agreed to restructure the tenor from 1-3 years to 7 years. But two refused, leading to average tenor of 4 years

Which 2 banks refused? [Smart management]

Kaburu banks

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obiero
#5359 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:26:30 PM
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maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
@arresteddev only time will tell whether KQ shall sink further

The road to recovery is long and treacherous. A competent management is required going forward. It is evident Ngunze is not the right person. Today he says one thing and tomorrow another thing. Any gains at the operating level will be wiped out by hedging losses and finance costs.


@Obiero what is the average tenor of their loans?How much are they owed?

13 local banks have lent to KQ amounts in excess of KES 52 billion shillings. 11 banks, 7 months ago agreed to restructure the tenor from 1-3 years to 7 years. But two refused, leading to average tenor of 4 years


Good what is the average interest rate for the loans?

15.5%
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VituVingiSana
#5360 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:10:28 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
obiero wrote:
@arresteddev only time will tell whether KQ shall sink further

The road to recovery is long and treacherous. A competent management is required going forward. It is evident Ngunze is not the right person. Today he says one thing and tomorrow another thing. Any gains at the operating level will be wiped out by hedging losses and finance costs.


@Obiero what is the average tenor of their loans?How much are they owed?

13 local banks have lent to KQ amounts in excess of KES 52 billion shillings. 11 banks, 7 months ago agreed to restructure the tenor from 1-3 years to 7 years. But two refused, leading to average tenor of 4 years

Which 2 banks refused? [Smart management]

Kaburu banks


Which banks have lent KQ money?
Please list names and amounts. Asante.
Why did the 2 Kaburu banks refuse?
Have they been paid?

Dear @Bankers @Auditors, I wonder, according to CBK/Opus guidelines, whether the loans to KQ are considered NPLs?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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