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KENOL KOBIL .... 2012
Aguytrying
#1041 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:50:49 PM
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Some serious exchanges at 16.00. around 200,000 shares traded in a matter of minutes all demand supplied. then, new demand at 16.00 now 229k shares. this is the sweet spot for buyers and sellers now.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
QW25091985
#1042 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:54:17 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Some serious exchanges at 16.00. around 200,000 shares traded in a matter of minutes all demand supplied. then, new demand at 16.00 now 229k shares. this is the sweet spot for buyers and sellers now.



hahahaha. You could have thought it was a football commentary . Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
kenmac
#1043 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:01:54 PM
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kk workers contests the takeover bid,

http://www.businessdaily...0/-/5vrm9oz/-/index.html
......Ecclesiastes
XSK
#1044 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:06:41 PM
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[quote=kenmac]kk workers contests the takeover bid,

http://www.businessdaily.../-/5vrm9oz/-/index.html[/quote]

@ken

Isn't it at this point that BP for some people shoots up? I am very afraid of the courts now
You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
guru267
#1045 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:12:41 PM
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kenmac wrote:
kk workers contests the takeover bid,

http://www.businessdaily.../-/5vrm9oz/-/index.html


old news..
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
guru267
#1046 Posted : Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:26:41 PM
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KK was taken off suspension less than two weeks ago and is up 30%.. Definitely a whole load of profit taking is to be expected..

But the rally seems to be intact..
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Cde Monomotapa
#1047 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 4:15:55 AM
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KK is still a well functioning company. So we win both ways. But really, hedging your whole life on your employer has always been a terrible idea. Invest & Grow.
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#1048 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 7:16:17 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
KK is still a well functioning company. So we win both ways. But really, hedging your whole life on your employer has always been a terrible idea. Invest & Grow.

It's the tunaomba serikal mentality!
What they need is a mindset change. I can imagine & indeed understand the fears inside them having been there,but as @Vitu mob said here before,if u hardworking & know u worth,u need not worry,u certainly will keep u job or be hunted for by other firms!
But even more worrying as u say is our inability to save, invest & grow & hence no passive income!Really sad!
@SufficientlyP
Aguytrying
#1049 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:11:19 AM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
KK is still a well functioning company. So we win both ways. But really, hedging your whole life on your employer has always been a terrible idea. Invest & Grow.

It's the tunaomba serikal mentality!
What they need is a mindset change. I can imagine & indeed understand the fears inside them having been there,but as @Vitu mob said here before,if u hardworking & know u worth,u need not worry,u certainly will keep u job or be hunted for by other firms!
But even more worrying as u say is our inability to save, invest & grow & hence no passive income!Really sad!


They need to exit the rat race. Own the company, not work for it.....at least in the long run.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Aguytrying
#1050 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:22:31 AM
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I'm not one to split hairs, but Kenol Kobil said that the update would be early this week. Today mid day is half of the week, past which it will be beyond "early this week". tehehe
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Jamani
#1051 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:25:57 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
KK is still a well functioning company. So we win both ways. But really, hedging your whole life on your employer has always been a terrible idea. Invest & Grow.

It's the tunaomba serikal mentality!
What they need is a mindset change. I can imagine & indeed understand the fears inside them having been there,but as @Vitu mob said here before,if u hardworking & know u worth,u need not worry,u certainly will keep u job or be hunted for by other firms!
But even more worrying as u say is our inability to save, invest & grow & hence no passive income!Really sad!


They need to exit the rat race. Own the company, not work for it.....at least in the long run.


I think its not only a lesson to KK staff but to most of us even here on Wazua. We have to learn to avoid the serikali mentality... unfortunately we as Kenyas dont, we forget so easily...
VituVingiSana
#1052 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:44:01 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
KK is still a well functioning company. So we win both ways. But really, hedging your whole life on your employer has always been a terrible idea. Invest & Grow.

It's the tunaomba serikal mentality!
What they need is a mindset change. I can imagine & indeed understand the fears inside them having been there,but as @Vitu mob said here before,if u hardworking & know u worth,u need not worry,u certainly will keep u job or be hunted for by other firms!
But even more worrying as u say is our inability to save, invest & grow & hence no passive income!Really sad!

They need to exit the rat race. Own the company, not work for it.....at least in the long run.
They know more about the firm than we do! They could have bought shares well before the Takeover was announced!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#1053 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:45:44 AM
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Jamani wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
KK is still a well functioning company. So we win both ways. But really, hedging your whole life on your employer has always been a terrible idea. Invest & Grow.

It's the tunaomba serikal mentality!
What they need is a mindset change. I can imagine & indeed understand the fears inside them having been there,but as @Vitu mob said here before,if u hardworking & know u worth,u need not worry,u certainly will keep u job or be hunted for by other firms!
But even more worrying as u say is our inability to save, invest & grow & hence no passive income!Really sad!

They need to exit the rat race. Own the company, not work for it.....at least in the long run.

I think its not only a lesson to KK staff but to most of us even here on Wazua. We have to learn to avoid the serikali mentality... unfortunately we as Kenyas dont, we forget so easily...
Do employees want to share in the losses? Or only when there are gains?
How many KQ directors, management or staff have shares in KQ? Do they share the pain? NO. On the other hand if KQ was 'taken over' at a premium, they would want a bonus!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#1054 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:52:12 AM
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What saddens me even more is workers of brokerage firms or mutual fund managers who have no interest in investing, they deal with shares for a living but they do not believe in them! I can never feel sorry for these people. I think life has to hit you/push you to realize you cant depend on your job forever.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
the deal
#1055 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:58:23 AM
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I see nothing wrong with the workers petition, in fact its a pre requisite from Puma to assure that the takeover does not result in Job losses...this is one of the smoothest takeovers I have seen...I will be worried when CMA or GoK tries to block it for some reason unknown...so cut the flack to the KK staff...it is where it is today because of the sacrifices of some of this staff.
the deal
#1056 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:05:01 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
What saddens me even more is workers of brokerage firms or mutual fund managers who have no interest in investing, they deal with shares for a living but they do not believe in them! I can never feel sorry for these people. I think life has to hit you/push you to realize you cant depend on your job forever.

Dude investing is not all about buying shares at the NSe...some of those folks might be owning the shop you bought your phone from...if the returns are good...why should they buy shares? If we all bought shares and nobody set up companies...KK will not be here...
VituVingiSana
#1057 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:07:12 AM
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the deal wrote:
I see nothing wrong with the workers petition, in fact its a pre requisite from Puma to assure that the takeover does not result in Job losses...this is one of the smoothest takeovers I have seen...I will be worried when CMA or GoK tries to block it for some reason unknown...so cut the flack to the KK staff...it is where it is today because of the sacrifices of some of this staff.

1) "in fact its a pre requisite from Puma to assure that the takeover does not result in Job losses" - What prerequisite? In law? In the agreement? Give us facts not your opinions disguised as facts.
2) The takeover has barely started. Not until we find out more. GoK (via MoE) can be a huge pain.
3) "the sacrifices of some of this staff" - Sacrifice? What did they sacrifice? Were they paid for their work? Did they get shares in the ESOP? Did they get options? Finally, 'some' not all the staff.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Aguytrying
#1058 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:09:59 AM
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the deal wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
What saddens me even more is workers of brokerage firms or mutual fund managers who have no interest in investing, they deal with shares for a living but they do not believe in them! I can never feel sorry for these people. I think life has to hit you/push you to realize you cant depend on your job forever.

Dude investing is not all about buying shares at the NSe...some of those folks might be owning the shop you bought your phone from...if the returns are good...why should they buy shares? If we all bought shares and nobody set up companies...KK will not be here...


true. there are many forms of investing, i hope they are in another form really hope. Still sad though, they should at least invest partly in what they deal with!! furthermore, one would be hitting nails to their own coffin it they ever took advice about shares from such people.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
VituVingiSana
#1059 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:15:34 AM
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the deal wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
What saddens me even more is workers of brokerage firms or mutual fund managers who have no interest in investing, they deal with shares for a living but they do not believe in them! I can never feel sorry for these people. I think life has to hit you/push you to realize you cant depend on your job forever.

Dude investing is not all about buying shares at the NSe...some of those folks might be owning the shop you bought your phone from...if the returns are good...why should they buy shares? If we all bought shares and nobody set up companies...KK will not be here...
So let them set up their shops. Why should they want a bonus from the sale of OUR shares in KK? Do we get a share of the income from their shops?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mlennyma
#1060 Posted : Wednesday, June 27, 2012 10:17:20 AM
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You cannot dictate how many workers i need,telkom workers never suceeded and new managements come with new ideas so jobs are not cast on stone provided your dues are paid what else?
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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