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MaichBlack
#511 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 10:55:24 PM
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Thanks @enyands.

I am not saying making 25% returns (or even less) is a bad thing. We all have different risk appetites. Even in my case, my risk appetite is not always constant. And it will definitely change (to much lower levels) as I get older.

It is perfectly okay to do your risk vs potential gain analysis before you make your investment. Even if you choose an investment that gives you 13% returns like a bond, it is okay. It is a personal choice. Based on personal reasons.

What I have a problem with are assertions that it is not possible to make 25% returns in a year in the stock market. Nothing can be further from the truth.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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MaichBlack
#512 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 10:59:57 PM
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murchr wrote:
MaichBlack Post#209 wrote:
Trick - Buy places that are opening up and wait...
= Speculation...same as buying art, if they turn the land next to yours and label it as the dumping site, No one will want it. Speculation is risky

See highlighted text.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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murchr
#513 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 11:03:34 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
MaichBlack Post#209 wrote:
Trick - Buy places that are opening up and wait...
= Speculation...same as buying art, if they turn the land next to yours and label it as the dumping site, No one will want it. Speculation is risky

See highlighted text.


Opening up...could be = new town/shopping center...but if the town decides that its sewage treatment plants will be near your plot...you might end up selling at cost or lower...thats why am saying speculation is risky
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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MaichBlack
#514 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 11:10:45 PM
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murchr wrote:
Not all stocks give back 25%, if one has an investment giving back 25% well and good. We all cant keep up with stocks rem others are not able to interprete the accounting books as others can do.

I am not saying everyone should do stocks. That's not the point. I am saying it is possible to make 25% (and higher) per year for those interested.

Someone insisting that it is not possible to make 25% per year in stocks just because he is not interested or does know how is the same as a villager saying it is not possible to be paid Kshs. 5 million plus a week to play football just because he hates football, is not good at it or has never left the village.

There many ways of making money. choose the one you are happy with. For example there are many people who will tell me they make much more money in forex trading than they would ever make in stocks. And they are probably right. I should not start saying it is not possible just because I am not good at forex trading or I am not comfortable with the risk profile.

Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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MaichBlack
#515 Posted : Wednesday, April 08, 2015 11:21:21 PM
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murchr wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
MaichBlack Post#209 wrote:
Trick - Buy places that are opening up and wait...
= Speculation...same as buying art, if they turn the land next to yours and label it as the dumping site, No one will want it. Speculation is risky

See highlighted text.


Opening up...could be = new town/shopping center...but if the town decides that its sewage treatment plants will be near your plot...you might end up selling at cost or lower...thats why am saying speculation is risky

That is why you should know exactly what you are doing!

Do due diligence, read, know who to talk to etc. etc.

And watch programs like this.. Well, not necessarily this one.

Examples of free sources of information
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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murchr
#516 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 12:11:34 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
MaichBlack Post#209 wrote:
Trick - Buy places that are opening up and wait...
= Speculation...same as buying art, if they turn the land next to yours and label it as the dumping site, No one will want it. Speculation is risky

See highlighted text.


Opening up...could be = new town/shopping center...but if the town decides that its sewage treatment plants will be near your plot...you might end up selling at cost or lower...thats why am saying speculation is risky

That is why you should know exactly what you are doing!

Do due diligence, read, know who to talk to etc. etc.

And watch programs like this.. Well, not necessarily this one.

Examples of free sources of information


High risk high return/loss...the results are not always the same when the die is cast. Yes due diligence is important for all investments but note things can change anytime.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Boris Boyka
#517 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 6:11:04 AM
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murchr wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
MaichBlack Post#209 wrote:
Trick - Buy places that are opening up and wait...
= Speculation...same as buying art, if they turn the land next to yours and label it as the dumping site, No one will want it. Speculation is risky

See highlighted text.


Opening up...could be = new town/shopping center...but if the town decides that its sewage treatment plants will be near your plot...you might end up selling at cost or lower...thats why am saying speculation is risky

That is why you should know exactly what you are doing!

Do due diligence, read, know who to talk to etc. etc.

And watch programs like this.. Well, not necessarily this one.

Examples of free sources of information


High risk high return/loss...the results are not always the same when the die is cast. Yes due diligence is important for all investments but note things can change anytime.

Understanding is difficult!d'oh!
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Mainat
#518 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 6:18:58 AM
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Okay warren buffet smile ama ni warren nyamachoma?
Sehemu ndio nyumba
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sparkly
#519 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 7:51:02 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
Not all stocks give back 25%, if one has an investment giving back 25% well and good. We all cant keep up with stocks rem others are not able to interprete the accounting books as others can do.

I am not saying everyone should do stocks. That's not the point. I am saying it is possible to make 25% (and higher) per year for those interested.

Someone insisting that it is not possible to make 25% per year in stocks just because he is not interested or does know how is the same as a villager saying it is not possible to be paid Kshs. 5 million plus a week to play football just because he hates football, is not good at it or has never left the village.

There many ways of making money. choose the one you are happy with. For example there are many people who will tell me they make much more money in forex trading than they would ever make in stocks. And they are probably right. I should not start saying it is not possible just because I am not good at forex trading or I am not comfortable with the risk profile.



How do you make 25% per year on stocks?
Life is short. Live passionately.
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Boris Boyka
#520 Posted : Thursday, April 09, 2015 9:54:59 AM
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sparkly wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
murchr wrote:
Not all stocks give back 25%, if one has an investment giving back 25% well and good. We all cant keep up with stocks rem others are not able to interprete the accounting books as others can do.

I am not saying everyone should do stocks. That's not the point. I am saying it is possible to make 25% (and higher) per year for those interested.

Someone insisting that it is not possible to make 25% per year in stocks just because he is not interested or does know how is the same as a villager saying it is not possible to be paid Kshs. 5 million plus a week to play football just because he hates football, is not good at it or has never left the village.

There many ways of making money. choose the one you are happy with. For example there are many people who will tell me they make much more money in forex trading than they would ever make in stocks. And they are probably right. I should not start saying it is not possible just because I am not good at forex trading or I am not comfortable with the risk profile.



How do you make 25% per year on stocks?

d'oh! Ata wewe unauliza! e.g if you stay in a stock for 5 yrs and get 150%.....that is 30% per year. Think in those lines.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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