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#41 Posted : Saturday, June 05, 2010 9:21:19 PM
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I will go long term on this one...lets say 1 year but i will reduce my holding in the course of the year...but for now i wont look at the price ticker for a month or so till the price stabilise...
Kaffir
#42 Posted : Sunday, June 06, 2010 3:03:58 PM
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the deal wrote:
I will go long term on this one...lets say 1 year but i will reduce my holding in the course of the year...but for now i wont look at the price ticker for a month or so till the price stabilise...


I agree with the strategy. I will also slowly work towards moving to other counters part of my investment i had made in KQ. Its underlying business, beneath the cloud of the fuel hedge gains, doesnt instill in me alot of confidence. But, will continue to hold some few shares in it, a reflection of the remaining confidence i have in the company.
VituVingiSana
#43 Posted : Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:54:13 PM
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@guru

http://www.businessdaily.../-/uuysjsz/-/index.html

“We prefer a weak shilling since we earn in dollars” said the group financial director, Mr Alex Mbugua.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#44 Posted : Sunday, June 06, 2010 7:12:17 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@guru

http://www.businessdaily.../-/uuysjsz/-/index.html

“We prefer a weak shilling since we earn in dollars” said the group financial director, Mr Alex Mbugua.

@vvs any potential lawsuit from the Doula crash???
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#45 Posted : Sunday, June 06, 2010 7:21:18 PM
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KQ has hedged at $76/barrel as from 31 March...not bad...but some stupit analysts expect a drop in full year profits due to the Ash...hope those oil prices stay up...plz get urslf a copy of business daily...the article is a must read...
VituVingiSana
#46 Posted : Sunday, June 06, 2010 9:35:58 PM
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the deal wrote:
KQ has hedged at $76/barrel as from 31 March...not bad...but some stupit analysts expect a drop in full year profits due to the Ash...hope those oil prices stay up...plz get urslf a copy of business daily...the article is a must read...


Lower oil prices are BETTER for KQ... hedges notwithstanding!!!

1) Only a certain portion is hedged so it is better to have LOW oil prices...
2) Lower oil prices means cheaper hedges going forward...
3) Cashflow benefits as well since hedges require cash to be used as security...
4) Lower oil prices means hedges not always needed...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Wa_ithaka
#47 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 7:30:30 AM
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The numbers are nothing to write home about especially the realised losses on the hdges, but I reckon KQ saving grace might be the rebounding European economies bringing tourists. WC will also help
The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
2012
#48 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 9:47:05 AM
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I'm just wondering where KQ's future growth will come from with other major airlines now looking at Africa. I think where they miss the point is on service delivery. You can use any aircraft but what you remember is the experience.

BBI will solve it
:)
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#49 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 9:51:02 AM
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@2011 sorry 2012 growth will come from africa...LOL...
VituVingiSana
#50 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 9:56:56 AM
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@2012 - Great point...

KQ has failed in service delivery... but it has succeeded in 2 respects:

- Extensive network vs other African airlines (except SAA & Ethiopian)
- No state support (SAA is subsidised. Ethiopian is vague on this)

Whereas KQ needs to shape up... the Kenya government needs to improve JKIA. Soon. Both SAA & Ethiopian fly to the huge N.American market but KQ cannot thanks to a lousy JKIA.

As for other major airlines, yes... but there is a future in intra-African growth which KQ can capture. Look at the new destinations in 2009 or (proposed) 2010... mostly African...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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