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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/7/2010 Posts: 1,279 Location: nbi
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and every crack was once a ...? The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 1,267
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Masukuma ...Lets pass the Draft as it is as .....I said earlier any one who will want to go overboard by lets say establishing Sharia laws or legalising abortion in future..... we shall deal with him/her cacophonously ....That time we will not be dealing with a whole constitution as we are now... but just some sections only and it will be easy ..... Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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@fundaa, what do u mean 'legalising abortion in future.....' its here!!!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 1,267
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Masukuma ....I believe you know the kind of 'legalising abortion in future ' I am talking about....it is voluntary abortion....not involuntary like miscarriages and ectopic pregnancies in which the foetus has no chance of surviving .... lets not oppose the whole constitution just to look different when we know the massive benefits that will accrue from passing the draft.... eg employment at grassroots ...grassroot empowerment which may reduce congestion in cities...women empowerment and representation... Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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...or even better, parliament amends the constitution review act 2008 to allow for the document to comeback to parliament, they change issues we are complaining about and everyone is happy!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 1,267
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masukuma wrote:...or even better, parliament amends the constitution review act 2008 to allow for the document to comeback to parliament, they change issues we are complaining about and everyone is happy!! the same monkeys(Mps ) are in the same forest (parliament)...nothing has changed....bringing the draft back to parliament is backsliding...let it come to the people..as it is... Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/12/2008 Posts: 1,178
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Masukuma asks Quote:do what a 10 or 12 year old should be done ... sent back to somalia if he is a somali.
i recommend that the age be reduced to 5 years or less. at least the kid would not be able to lie...as much. There in lies the catch...they are boarded onto a bus in Mandera and by the time it lands at Eastleigh, they are Citizens. @Fundah...Project that in 20 years and by then you won't have the numbers to reject 'Sharia Law'.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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8 years old + 2 terms the dude can vote!!! during that time you have aborted all your unwanted kids and drunk chang'aa proper!!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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I wonder who will top that I HATE MUSLIMs speech. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 1,267
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Yes Alma ...this is kinda ...intolerance/pettiness .. creating a mountain from anthill....and with this ..we will never have a new constitution...this phobia and deliberate lies ... aimed at derailing the constitution is just amazing.... Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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@Fundaah,@alma correction - we want it amended b4 the referendum if not we will vote a clear NO!!. but anyway your opinion will not derail our cause. we will not put-up, we will not shut-up! we will scream, shout and wail. If it passes in its current form, we will be there to tell you you made a mistake. We shall not be cowed. Believe me its not a PR exercise is a conviction exercise. regardless of the mood of the people we will continue shouting even if we are the minority. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/12/2009 Posts: 925
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...deciding on whether to vote Yes or No is a personal conviction.
...Please dont force people to vote your side.....this is what has been happening with the Mpigs and the press beating the drums for them.
.......if am too hungry and come across a lot of cheap meat from a dead cow and have the choice of eating less meat from a fresh one......dont be a genius.
....Think straight not deep.
...and can you imagine if this world is full of people who agree on everything.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 1,267
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the problem with amendments Now .....is that another minority like those who own large tracts of grabbed land will want another amendment ....gays the same..the seesaw will also go to muslim minority ..etc and will we head nowhere.. Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 99
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Things are elephant. The lesson here is simple, The action of the state appearing to elevate one religious group to a special status will create certain disturbances of the existing equilibrium. The neat thing to do is put them on an equal footing. That should not be too difficult to achieve. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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@kingauwi, touché All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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@Fundaah, squeaky bolts get the grease. i bet the CoE expected their 'expertise' to sail thru parliament and thru kenyans unopposed. Our msg is simple, we will not accept the document in its current form!!! change it or pokea our NO! (regardless of how many NOs the draft receives...whether we will have our day or not - its not a competition) we are merely stating what we believe in. The choice belongs to all Kenyans to which we are part of and our voices will be heard! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,619
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..creating fear ,and we shall read and hear much more in trying to defeat the draft.For those who need any changes to the draft be ready to raise one million signatures after the YES vote.For christians that is a small matter after which only a simple majority in parliament will be required for the ammedment to pass.The process at this point can not be stopped.Too many intrests and we cant all win.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Quote:The process at this point can not be stopped cannot or will not? it can be stopped, parliament can change any law of the land!!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Administration Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 679
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Dear Members,
We believe Wazua can express diverse opinions respectfully. If emotions override restraint as relates to our ongoing constitutional debates, we will have no option but to intervene.
Welcome to Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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@Wazua...
are just about to surpress freedom of expression on this topic...
Nways immediately radicals take over this thread please do the neccessary.
I personaly being a christian and stounch one for that matter, find the post by anasazi propanganda-ish.
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