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KenyaRe FY19 - FY23 (Both Inclusive)
guru267
#41 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 12:27:39 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
young wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Kenya Re proposes bonus issue in the ratio of 3:1!

Also looking to set up subsidiary in Uganda.


Provide link please ?

bad move increasing governments majority stake 3fold



GOK's stake will remain the same.
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mlennyma
#42 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 12:28:54 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
young wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Kenya Re proposes bonus issue in the ratio of 3:1!

Also looking to set up subsidiary in Uganda.


Provide link please ?

bad move increasing governments majority stake 3fold


How now? The stakes remain the same.

Iam wrong i had understood it 1:3
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#43 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 12:30:49 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
mlennyma wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
young wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Kenya Re proposes bonus issue in the ratio of 3:1!

Also looking to set up subsidiary in Uganda.


Provide link please ?

bad move increasing governments majority stake 3fold


How now? The stakes remain the same.

Iam wrong i had understood it 1:3

Even if that was the case, how would GoK's stake or % have increased?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#44 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 12:30:52 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
mlennyma wrote:
young wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Kenya Re proposes bonus issue in the ratio of 3:1!

Also looking to set up subsidiary in Uganda.


Provide link please ?

bad move increasing governments majority stake 3fold


There are people who went to school and some who passed by the gate
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
guru267
#45 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 12:31:23 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 1/21/2010
Posts: 6,675
Location: Nairobi
mlennyma wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
young wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Kenya Re proposes bonus issue in the ratio of 3:1!

Also looking to set up subsidiary in Uganda.


Provide link please ?

bad move increasing governments majority stake 3fold


How now? The stakes remain the same.

Iam wrong i had understood it 1:3


Even if it was 1:3 GOKs stake would remain the same
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mlennyma
#46 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 12:35:00 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/21/2010
Posts: 6,194
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
young wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Kenya Re proposes bonus issue in the ratio of 3:1!

Also looking to set up subsidiary in Uganda.


Provide link please ?

bad move increasing governments majority stake 3fold


There are people who went to school and some who passed by the gate

You learn till you die lucky is you who knows everything
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#47 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 12:50:48 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,346
Location: Nairobi
@mlennyma

In the case of a bonus/split or consolidation the % ownership does not change.

GoK has 420mn KenRe shares oout of 700mn shares which is 60%.
After the bonus it will end up with 420mn x 4 = 1.68bn shares BUT the total issued shares will be 700mn x 4 = 2.8bn. So GoK will still have 60%.

Keki is the same size. Just more slices!

Let's say it was 1:2 (one bonus for every 2 shares held)
420mn x 1.5 = 630mn
700mn x 1.5 = 1,050mn

630/1050 = 60%
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
maka
#48 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 12:52:52 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
mlennyma wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
young wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Kenya Re proposes bonus issue in the ratio of 3:1!

Also looking to set up subsidiary in Uganda.


Provide link please ?

bad move increasing governments majority stake 3fold


There are people who went to school and some who passed by the gate

You learn till you die lucky is you who knows everything


smile
possunt quia posse videntur
Ericsson
#49 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 1:09:06 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,804
Location: NAIROBI
VituVingiSana wrote:
@mlennyma

In the case of a bonus/split or consolidation the % ownership does not change.

GoK has 420mn KenRe shares oout of 700mn shares which is 60%.
After the bonus it will end up with 420mn x 4 = 1.68bn shares BUT the total issued shares will be 700mn x 4 = 2.8bn. So GoK will still have 60%.

Keki is the same size. Just more slices!

Let's say it was 1:2 (one bonus for every 2 shares held)
420mn x 1.5 = 630mn
700mn x 1.5 = 1,050mn

630/1050 = 60%


Well explained vvs
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#50 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 1:25:40 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,213
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
young wrote:
Superprime1 wrote:
Kenya Re proposes bonus issue in the ratio of 3:1!

Also looking to set up subsidiary in Uganda.


Provide link please ?

bad move increasing governments majority stake 3fold


There are people who went to school and some who passed by the gate

You learn till you die lucky is you who knows everything


smile

Hehe

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