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KQ FY17
obiero
#81 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 9:23:10 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
Chaka wrote:
Conflict of interest?
Ericsson wrote:
Kq seeks to run JKIA for a minimum 30 years as part of its turnaround efforts. Its chairman has said



No conflict of interest hapo...
Yes, there is a conflict. Look at how GoK is forcing importers to use the SGR instead of trucks.

What if KQ-JKIA decides to:
1) Not allocate decent landing/take-off slots to competitors eg Emirates
2) Not improve the terminals the competition uses
3) Charges higher fees to the competition
4) Parking closer to Terminals 1B, 1C etc is not as good/convenient as 1A
5) The provision of ground equipment benefits KQ/Skyteam

None of the above has to be overt. It's covert.

Wakichimba tunachimba

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
maka
#82 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 10:32:28 PM
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Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
Chaka wrote:
Conflict of interest?
Ericsson wrote:
Kq seeks to run JKIA for a minimum 30 years as part of its turnaround efforts. Its chairman has said



No conflict of interest hapo...
Yes, there is a conflict. Look at how GoK is forcing importers to use the SGR instead of trucks.

What if KQ-JKIA decides to:
1) Not allocate decent landing/take-off slots to competitors eg Emirates
2) Not improve the terminals the competition uses
3) Charges higher fees to the competition
4) Parking closer to Terminals 1B, 1C etc is not as good/convenient as 1A
5) The provision of ground equipment benefits KQ/Skyteam

None of the above has to be overt. It's covert.

Wakichimba tunachimba


They wouldn't dare do that for a very simple reason when you fly to those countries they would easily do the same or worse... There are guidelines to follow when it comes to such things esp costs when it comes to different airports/region s...
possunt quia posse videntur
VituVingiSana
#83 Posted : Thursday, June 07, 2018 11:00:04 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,107
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
Chaka wrote:
Conflict of interest?
Ericsson wrote:
Kq seeks to run JKIA for a minimum 30 years as part of its turnaround efforts. Its chairman has said



No conflict of interest hapo...
Yes, there is a conflict. Look at how GoK is forcing importers to use the SGR instead of trucks.

What if KQ-JKIA decides to:
1) Not allocate decent landing/take-off slots to competitors eg Emirates
2) Not improve the terminals the competition uses
3) Charges higher fees to the competition
4) Parking closer to Terminals 1B, 1C etc is not as good/convenient as 1A
5) The provision of ground equipment benefits KQ/Skyteam

None of the above has to be overt. It's covert.

Wakichimba tunachimba


They wouldn't dare do that for a very simple reason when you fly to those countries they would easily do the same or worse... There are guidelines to follow when it comes to such things esp costs when it comes to different airports/region s...
Not necessarily. One, it would be covertly done. Furthermore, KQ can't compete with the ME carriers so penalizing them for their efficiency is the easy way to go. KQ only has flights to Dubai whereas Etihad and Qatar also serve NBO.
Then there's TK, LH, etc.
What about local guys with regional ambitions?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mikanjoroge
#84 Posted : Friday, June 08, 2018 8:56:08 AM
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Joined: 6/13/2016
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Location: kenya
KQ logic = We are making losses in our primary business which is flying, thus solution is to take up much more responsibility in an area we have little to no experience.
Like a couple who are having severe marriage issues deciding the solution is to have a big baby.
obiero
#85 Posted : Friday, June 08, 2018 2:39:21 PM
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mikanjoroge wrote:
KQ logic = We are making losses in our primary business which is flying, thus solution is to take up much more responsibility in an area we have little to no experience.
Like a couple who are having severe marriage issues deciding the solution is to have a big baby.

Mikosz, Coste, Van and Michael Joseph are inexperienced?

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#86 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 8:55:33 PM
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obiero wrote:
mikanjoroge wrote:
KQ logic = We are making losses in our primary business which is flying, thus solution is to take up much more responsibility in an area we have little to no experience.
Like a couple who are having severe marriage issues deciding the solution is to have a big baby.

Mikosz, Coste, Van and Michael Joseph are inexperienced?


If GOK demands all state officers to fly using kq the airline will be on upward trajectory
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Angelica _ann
#87 Posted : Sunday, June 10, 2018 9:39:25 PM
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Posts: 11,908
How can Government purport to discipline Accounting & Procurement Officers yet KQ management are freely enjoying their lives & wealth?
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#88 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2018 10:26:06 AM
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https://www.businessdail...9534-ycpbnbz/index.html

Kenya Airways is set to issue 142.1 million shares currently worth Sh1.4 billion to its staff for free, reinstating its suspended employee share ownership plan (Esop).

The new shares have been created but are yet to be issued, with the Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed national carrier still working on rules to govern the scheme.

“The formation of the scheme was approved at the extraordinary general meeting of the company held on August 7, 2017. Accordingly, the directors allotted 142,164,558 shares to the scheme for zero cash consideration,” the airline, known by its international code KQ, says in its latest annual report.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#89 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:55:35 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,107
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Kenya-Airways-staff-to-get-Sh1-4bn-shares-free/4003102-4609534-ycpbnbz/index.html

Kenya Airways is set to issue 142.1 million shares currently worth Sh1.4 billion to its staff for free, reinstating its suspended employee share ownership plan (Esop).

The new shares have been created but are yet to be issued, with the Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed national carrier still working on rules to govern the scheme.

“The formation of the scheme was approved at the extraordinary general meeting of the company held on August 7, 2017. Accordingly, the directors allotted 142,164,558 shares to the scheme for zero cash consideration,” the airline, known by its international code KQ, says in its latest annual report.

#BendOver [though I do support employee ownership but in this case, should they be completely free? Folks do not value "free" things given to them]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#90 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:58:08 AM
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Posts: 18,107
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Kenya-Airways-staff-to-get-Sh1-4bn-shares-free/4003102-4609534-ycpbnbz/index.html

Kenya Airways is set to issue 142.1 million shares currently worth Sh1.4 billion to its staff for free, reinstating its suspended employee share ownership plan (Esop).

The new shares have been created but are yet to be issued, with the Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed national carrier still working on rules to govern the scheme.

“The formation of the scheme was approved at the extraordinary general meeting of the company held on August 7, 2017. Accordingly, the directors allotted 142,164,558 shares to the scheme for zero cash consideration,” the airline, known by its international code KQ, says in its latest annual report.

#BendOver [though I do support employee ownership but in this case, should they be completely free? Folks do not value "free" things given to them]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#91 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2018 4:55:28 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,107
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Kenya-Airways-staff-to-get-Sh1-4bn-shares-free/4003102-4609534-ycpbnbz/index.html

Kenya Airways is set to issue 142.1 million shares currently worth Sh1.4 billion to its staff for free, reinstating its suspended employee share ownership plan (Esop).

The new shares have been created but are yet to be issued, with the Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed national carrier still working on rules to govern the scheme.

“The formation of the scheme was approved at the extraordinary general meeting of the company held on August 7, 2017. Accordingly, the directors allotted 142,164,558 shares to the scheme for zero cash consideration,” the airline, known by its international code KQ, says in its latest annual report.

#BendOver [though I do support employee ownership but in this case, should they be completely free? Folks do not value "free" things given to them]
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#92 Posted : Sunday, June 17, 2018 11:09:52 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,520
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/corporate/companies/Kenya-Airways-staff-to-get-Sh1-4bn-shares-free/4003102-4609534-ycpbnbz/index.html

Kenya Airways is set to issue 142.1 million shares currently worth Sh1.4 billion to its staff for free, reinstating its suspended employee share ownership plan (Esop).

The new shares have been created but are yet to be issued, with the Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed national carrier still working on rules to govern the scheme.

“The formation of the scheme was approved at the extraordinary general meeting of the company held on August 7, 2017. Accordingly, the directors allotted 142,164,558 shares to the scheme for zero cash consideration,” the airline, known by its international code KQ, says in its latest annual report.

#BendOver [though I do support employee ownership but in this case, should they be completely free? Folks do not value "free" things given to them]

Those shares are very valuable especially since they have been offered at zero consideration

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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