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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,107 Location: Nairobi
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Museveni wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:semaj wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:semaj wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:semaj wrote:Airtel 90day 4G bundles
120gb @6000/
200gb @9000/
Telkom 90 day 4G bundles
100gb @5000/ Thank you Faiba! Though it's still pricier than Faiba. I don't know if Airtel provides 4G... I often get EDGE on it. The tricky part with faiba is the 30days expiry period for their data bundles. They should extend it to 90 days The idea is to keep you buying on a regular basis. A subscription model. I am a-ok with the 30-day bundles if I can buy 120 Gb [mobile data] for 4k compared to what I currently pay Airtel and Safcom. What sold me is the "mobile" data bundle vs Safcom's unlimited @home package which can only be used at home... I think "mobile" data is a better deal as we are out of the house for most of the day. That said, different strokes for different folks. Competition is a good thing! @semaj - I checked my airtel line but I didn't see the package you mentioned. Please post a link to the offer. The package is available on the 4G simcard, which is currently available only when you buy the 4G router Is this a "wifi" router like the "mifi" device? In other words, is it a mobile device? Thanks! [Plus a link would be helpful]... Google isn't helping much! Very Interesting the link in Airtel Kenya post links to JumiaWith Safaricom having launched their online store, masoko , seems airtel is backing a third party online store by opening their own store front in Jumia.  Asante! I will check it out. I also plan to see what Faiba offers. Faiba is cheaper than Airtel but Airtel does have a greater range/service. I find Airtel to be slow and on 3G and EDGE. I have no experience with Faiba but they do advertise LTE. I will continue with Safcom but I can buy bigger bundles on Airtel/Faiba... Zuku is dead at this rate! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,107 Location: Nairobi
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Jumia also has https://www.jumia.co.ke/...-free-data-1234180.html from Telkom. 4,000/- [Does Airtel provide true 4G service?] Airtel https://www.jumia.co.ke/...spot-white-1053323.html 4,000/- Faiba https://www.faiba4g.co.ke/store/details?id=10 5,400/- Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/16/2012 Posts: 660
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Looks like Airtel and Faiba are selling Huawei made devices which one may be able to use either simcard from the two providers. This is because the two devices can operate on LTE band 28 (700MHz) which on which 4g is rolled out. While Telkom have opted for Alcatel linkzone mw41 devices which can also operate on 700MHz. The service from all the three should be true 4g The custom branding suggests the devicees may be locked to the respective mobile operators. Which will not take long for a way around to be found. Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,107 Location: Nairobi
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Museveni wrote:Looks like Airtel and Faiba are selling Huawei made devices which one may be able to use either simcard from the two providers. This is because the two devices can operate on LTE band 28 (700MHz) which on which 4g is rolled out. While Telkom have opted for Alcatel linkzone mw41 devices which can also operate on 700MHz. The service from all the three should be true 4g The custom branding suggests the devicees may be locked to the respective mobile operators. Which will not take long for a way around to be found. The device may support 4G but does Airtel offer (true) 4G service? I plan to get a Faiba SIM & hotspot... If I like it then I might invest in a WiFi device. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:Looks like Airtel and Faiba are selling Huawei made devices which one may be able to use either simcard from the two providers. This is because the two devices can operate on LTE band 28 (700MHz) which on which 4g is rolled out. While Telkom have opted for Alcatel linkzone mw41 devices which can also operate on 700MHz. The service from all the three should be true 4g The custom branding suggests the devicees may be locked to the respective mobile operators. Which will not take long for a way around to be found. The device may support 4G but does Airtel offer (true) 4G service? I plan to get a Faiba SIM & hotspot... If I like it then I might invest in a WiFi device. I got the Wi-Fi modem but decided to get the cheap Nokia 2,because it's more useful than the modem, the battery on this phone is very impressive, I will get mzee and his wife (mum) the same, if you can add that 5k and get the Nokia 2 instead of the modem. To Each His Own
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2017 Posts: 186 Location: Nairobi
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I got the Faiba modem. So far so good. Ditched my previous subscription to safaricon
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,107 Location: Nairobi
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kayhara wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:Looks like Airtel and Faiba are selling Huawei made devices which one may be able to use either simcard from the two providers. This is because the two devices can operate on LTE band 28 (700MHz) which on which 4g is rolled out. While Telkom have opted for Alcatel linkzone mw41 devices which can also operate on 700MHz. The service from all the three should be true 4g The custom branding suggests the devicees may be locked to the respective mobile operators. Which will not take long for a way around to be found. The device may support 4G but does Airtel offer (true) 4G service? I plan to get a Faiba SIM & hotspot... If I like it then I might invest in a WiFi device. I got the Wi-Fi modem but decided to get the cheap Nokia 2,because it's more useful than the modem, the battery on this phone is very impressive, I will get mzee and his wife (mum) the same, if you can add that 5k and get the Nokia 2 instead of the modem. Thanks for the advice. I have 2 phones and don’t need another. My goal is using the data package. Question: Is the phone locked to Faiba? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/16/2012 Posts: 660
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kayhara wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:Looks like Airtel and Faiba are selling Huawei made devices which one may be able to use either simcard from the two providers. This is because the two devices can operate on LTE band 28 (700MHz) which on which 4g is rolled out. While Telkom have opted for Alcatel linkzone mw41 devices which can also operate on 700MHz. The service from all the three should be true 4g The custom branding suggests the devicees may be locked to the respective mobile operators. Which will not take long for a way around to be found. The device may support 4G but does Airtel offer (true) 4G service? I plan to get a Faiba SIM & hotspot... If I like it then I might invest in a WiFi device. I got the Wi-Fi modem but decided to get the cheap Nokia 2,because it's more useful than the modem, the battery on this phone is very impressive, I will get mzee and his wife (mum) the same, if you can add that 5k and get the Nokia 2 instead of the modem. Elephant in the room is the coverage issue especially for Faiba. Airtel have an upper hand in that they they have installations almost all over the country subsidized by their deal with Equitel. If Airtel would leverage on their infrastructure and rollout 4g with a greater focus on data, we would be headed for very interesting times as the consumers. Safaricom would be forced to innovate further. However as it is, Faiba will focus on some major towns and with that fall to same fate that befell Kencell. Good product hindered by poor coverage which leads to low revenue which is inconsistent. Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,107 Location: Nairobi
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Museveni wrote:kayhara wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:Looks like Airtel and Faiba are selling Huawei made devices which one may be able to use either simcard from the two providers. This is because the two devices can operate on LTE band 28 (700MHz) which on which 4g is rolled out. While Telkom have opted for Alcatel linkzone mw41 devices which can also operate on 700MHz. The service from all the three should be true 4g The custom branding suggests the devicees may be locked to the respective mobile operators. Which will not take long for a way around to be found. The device may support 4G but does Airtel offer (true) 4G service? I plan to get a Faiba SIM & hotspot... If I like it then I might invest in a WiFi device. I got the Wi-Fi modem but decided to get the cheap Nokia 2,because it's more useful than the modem, the battery on this phone is very impressive, I will get mzee and his wife (mum) the same, if you can add that 5k and get the Nokia 2 instead of the modem. Elephant in the room is the coverage issue especially for Faiba. Airtel have an upper hand in that they they have installations almost all over the country subsidized by their deal with Equitel. If Airtel would leverage on their infrastructure and rollout 4g with a greater focus on data, we would be headed for very interesting times as the consumers. Safaricom would be forced to innovate further. However as it is, Faiba will focus on some major towns and with that fall to same fate that befell Kencell. Good product hindered by poor coverage which leads to low revenue which is inconsistent. Eventually, they need to roll out countrywide but for now do they need to? If their focus is on selling data, isn’t 80% covered by the major towns? 80% of your profits come from 20% of your customers... [This might not hold for all sectors but isn’t heavy data consumption primarily, for now, in Urban areas] Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/16/2012 Posts: 660
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VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:kayhara wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:Looks like Airtel and Faiba are selling Huawei made devices which one may be able to use either simcard from the two providers. This is because the two devices can operate on LTE band 28 (700MHz) which on which 4g is rolled out. While Telkom have opted for Alcatel linkzone mw41 devices which can also operate on 700MHz. The service from all the three should be true 4g The custom branding suggests the devicees may be locked to the respective mobile operators. Which will not take long for a way around to be found. The device may support 4G but does Airtel offer (true) 4G service? I plan to get a Faiba SIM & hotspot... If I like it then I might invest in a WiFi device. I got the Wi-Fi modem but decided to get the cheap Nokia 2,because it's more useful than the modem, the battery on this phone is very impressive, I will get mzee and his wife (mum) the same, if you can add that 5k and get the Nokia 2 instead of the modem. Elephant in the room is the coverage issue especially for Faiba. Airtel have an upper hand in that they they have installations almost all over the country subsidized by their deal with Equitel. If Airtel would leverage on their infrastructure and rollout 4g with a greater focus on data, we would be headed for very interesting times as the consumers. Safaricom would be forced to innovate further. However as it is, Faiba will focus on some major towns and with that fall to same fate that befell Kencell. Good product hindered by poor coverage which leads to low revenue which is inconsistent. Eventually, they need to roll out countrywide but for now do they need to? If their focus is on selling data, isn’t 80% covered by the major towns? 80% of your profits come from 20% of your customers... [This might not hold for all sectors but isn’t heavy data consumption primarily, for now, in Urban areas] The current situation is brought about by the fact that most of the rollout of faster 3G and optic fibre (fth) is within the urban areas. It is not because those in the remote areas or the villages do not need or cannot afford the services. They have been ignored. Opening up these so called remote areas would lead to other opportunities which are beneficial not just for the companies but for all. Oh and the demand in the villages is there with the number of smart phones that are circulating there. E.g if one was able to Skype or even video call with the folks in the village, how many goats would have been spared this holiday season? The biggest beneficiary would be the education system. It is still very troubling to think of the number of schools which have no internet connection even with several digital programmes rolled out Competing in the limited urban space has diminishing rate of returns for the telco companies as the only viable way to compete is through price wars without increasing the client base. Surely devolution has helped spread some of the people who would've been motivated to stay in the traditional urban areas to the more remote areas. These provide at least a guaranteed client base all over the country. Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,696 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:kayhara wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:Looks like Airtel and Faiba are selling Huawei made devices which one may be able to use either simcard from the two providers. This is because the two devices can operate on LTE band 28 (700MHz) which on which 4g is rolled out. While Telkom have opted for Alcatel linkzone mw41 devices which can also operate on 700MHz. The service from all the three should be true 4g The custom branding suggests the devicees may be locked to the respective mobile operators. Which will not take long for a way around to be found. The device may support 4G but does Airtel offer (true) 4G service? I plan to get a Faiba SIM & hotspot... If I like it then I might invest in a WiFi device. I got the Wi-Fi modem but decided to get the cheap Nokia 2,because it's more useful than the modem, the battery on this phone is very impressive, I will get mzee and his wife (mum) the same, if you can add that 5k and get the Nokia 2 instead of the modem. Elephant in the room is the coverage issue especially for Faiba. Airtel have an upper hand in that they they have installations almost all over the country subsidized by their deal with Equitel. If Airtel would leverage on their infrastructure and rollout 4g with a greater focus on data, we would be headed for very interesting times as the consumers. Safaricom would be forced to innovate further. However as it is, Faiba will focus on some major towns and with that fall to same fate that befell Kencell. Good product hindered by poor coverage which leads to low revenue which is inconsistent. Eventually, they need to roll out countrywide but for now do they need to? If their focus is on selling data, isn’t 80% covered by the major towns? 80% of your profits come from 20% of your customers... [This might not hold for all sectors but isn’t heavy data consumption primarily, for now, in Urban areas] Airtel has tried that strategy and its not working for them Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/16/2012 Posts: 660
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:kayhara wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:Looks like Airtel and Faiba are selling Huawei made devices which one may be able to use either simcard from the two providers. This is because the two devices can operate on LTE band 28 (700MHz) which on which 4g is rolled out. While Telkom have opted for Alcatel linkzone mw41 devices which can also operate on 700MHz. The service from all the three should be true 4g The custom branding suggests the devicees may be locked to the respective mobile operators. Which will not take long for a way around to be found. The device may support 4G but does Airtel offer (true) 4G service? I plan to get a Faiba SIM & hotspot... If I like it then I might invest in a WiFi device. I got the Wi-Fi modem but decided to get the cheap Nokia 2,because it's more useful than the modem, the battery on this phone is very impressive, I will get mzee and his wife (mum) the same, if you can add that 5k and get the Nokia 2 instead of the modem. Elephant in the room is the coverage issue especially for Faiba. Airtel have an upper hand in that they they have installations almost all over the country subsidized by their deal with Equitel. If Airtel would leverage on their infrastructure and rollout 4g with a greater focus on data, we would be headed for very interesting times as the consumers. Safaricom would be forced to innovate further. However as it is, Faiba will focus on some major towns and with that fall to same fate that befell Kencell. Good product hindered by poor coverage which leads to low revenue which is inconsistent. Eventually, they need to roll out countrywide but for now do they need to? If their focus is on selling data, isn’t 80% covered by the major towns? 80% of your profits come from 20% of your customers... [This might not hold for all sectors but isn’t heavy data consumption primarily, for now, in Urban areas] Airtel has tried that strategy and its not working for them What strategy @Ericsson ? Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/5/2011 Posts: 1,059
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Going by ealier posts Faiba has the 28-700mhz frequecy meaning they will need few base stations to cover the same area as the rest, furthermore with the CA and arap mashamba support, they can tap into the universal access fund the CA has been holding to cover the areas Telcos see as non viable. They also don't seem to be aggressively advertising since they know their target customers and so far I can say the people getting faiba mifis is really high. The cheapest bundle is 50 bob, and loading bundles is not exactly easy plus at the moment only Nokia phones are compatible, the cheapest is 11k, the mifi is 5,400, going by this few kenyans have the capacity to utelize the cheapest 1GB for one day let alone 8GB in a week. This product is for data heavy users. To Each His Own
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/7/2017 Posts: 186 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:kayhara wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:Looks like Airtel and Faiba are selling Huawei made devices which one may be able to use either simcard from the two providers. This is because the two devices can operate on LTE band 28 (700MHz) which on which 4g is rolled out. While Telkom have opted for Alcatel linkzone mw41 devices which can also operate on 700MHz. The service from all the three should be true 4g The custom branding suggests the devicees may be locked to the respective mobile operators. Which will not take long for a way around to be found. The device may support 4G but does Airtel offer (true) 4G service? I plan to get a Faiba SIM & hotspot... If I like it then I might invest in a WiFi device. I got the Wi-Fi modem but decided to get the cheap Nokia 2,because it's more useful than the modem, the battery on this phone is very impressive, I will get mzee and his wife (mum) the same, if you can add that 5k and get the Nokia 2 instead of the modem. Elephant in the room is the coverage issue especially for Faiba. Airtel have an upper hand in that they they have installations almost all over the country subsidized by their deal with Equitel. If Airtel would leverage on their infrastructure and rollout 4g with a greater focus on data, we would be headed for very interesting times as the consumers. Safaricom would be forced to innovate further. However as it is, Faiba will focus on some major towns and with that fall to same fate that befell Kencell. Good product hindered by poor coverage which leads to low revenue which is inconsistent. Eventually, they need to roll out countrywide but for now do they need to? If their focus is on selling data, isn’t 80% covered by the major towns? 80% of your profits come from 20% of your customers... [This might not hold for all sectors but isn’t heavy data consumption primarily, for now, in Urban areas] I think the main reason Safaricom is a hit reliability across and out of towns. For instance a person traveling from Nairobi to Nyanza has consistent 3g coverage. This is not the case with the other providers Remember the same people who currently reside in urban areas also travel across centers. Having to switch providers let's say outside of Nairobi so as to get connectivity may not be attractive to many
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/16/2012 Posts: 660
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Stiffler wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:kayhara wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Museveni wrote:Looks like Airtel and Faiba are selling Huawei made devices which one may be able to use either simcard from the two providers. This is because the two devices can operate on LTE band 28 (700MHz) which on which 4g is rolled out. While Telkom have opted for Alcatel linkzone mw41 devices which can also operate on 700MHz. The service from all the three should be true 4g The custom branding suggests the devicees may be locked to the respective mobile operators. Which will not take long for a way around to be found. The device may support 4G but does Airtel offer (true) 4G service? I plan to get a Faiba SIM & hotspot... If I like it then I might invest in a WiFi device. I got the Wi-Fi modem but decided to get the cheap Nokia 2,because it's more useful than the modem, the battery on this phone is very impressive, I will get mzee and his wife (mum) the same, if you can add that 5k and get the Nokia 2 instead of the modem. Elephant in the room is the coverage issue especially for Faiba. Airtel have an upper hand in that they they have installations almost all over the country subsidized by their deal with Equitel. If Airtel would leverage on their infrastructure and rollout 4g with a greater focus on data, we would be headed for very interesting times as the consumers. Safaricom would be forced to innovate further. However as it is, Faiba will focus on some major towns and with that fall to same fate that befell Kencell. Good product hindered by poor coverage which leads to low revenue which is inconsistent. Eventually, they need to roll out countrywide but for now do they need to? If their focus is on selling data, isn’t 80% covered by the major towns? 80% of your profits come from 20% of your customers... [This might not hold for all sectors but isn’t heavy data consumption primarily, for now, in Urban areas] I think the main reason Safaricom is a hit reliability across and out of towns. For instance a person traveling from Nairobi to Nyanza has consistent 3g coverage. This is not the case with the other providers Remember the same people who currently reside in urban areas also travel across centers. Having to switch providers let's say outside of Nairobi so as to get connectivity may not be attractive to many These new guys have very minimal chance of success unlike they think nationwide. Noteworthy they will also be under-cutting their optic fibre business as their clients are in the same locality Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,107 Location: Nairobi
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Got the MiFi Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,696 Location: NAIROBI
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Faiba 4G i see on tv they are advertising more of fiber not LTE Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2011 Posts: 207
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Ericsson wrote:KulaRaha wrote:Wororo wrote:
Can Faiba also disrupt the local Telecom sector the same way Reliance Jio did in India...?
WSR may be rich, but he's no Ambani....price wars need business strategy and deep pockets. I doubt he has either. Reliance Jo have defaulted on loans they took @Ericsson, it's not Reliance Jio that defaulted on its loans but Reliance Communications. Apparently Jio is owned by the older Ambani (brother) whereas RCom is/was for the younger Ambani
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2011 Posts: 207
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,696 Location: NAIROBI
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Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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