Wazua
»
Club SK
»
Life
»
House Sinks in Huruma
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
|
Mike Ock wrote:Even if this is a bandit economy, shouldn't Uhuru just have his Mount Kenya/Rift Valley Mafia and anyone else ajipange? Why not make an example of some of these politically disposable people? How "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
|
Most people don't value their lives and landlords know it. I hope mother nature keeps flooding all those buildings so that people can move. Would be a good lesson to the greedy landlords. Hopefully no more lives will be lost. i.am.back!!!!
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
|
kiash wrote:[quote=hardwood]How do you even excavate the foundation for the building in such a situation? What happened to the 30m riparian zone on each side of the river? Kidero? Nema?  Hata hiyo hapo nyuma itakuwa next. Let me tell you something, if you walk in the city surbubs hapo kwenyu majuu, you will realize that houses are built right close to the river/canals like shown up there in Hururma. With technology, all is possible. Tal a walk to NYC suburbs and Amsterdam canals...we have houses which were built 200 years ago by the water canals and still standing strong. What might have made this house to sink is simply poor workmanship! Please deposit this to #Kumisa Sacco in Kiambu. Now for Home Science graduates like @washiku and you,that house had a poor foundation, they used normal cement in an area which is 100% waterlogged year round...so what happened? The structure slowly sipped water by way of capilarity (Home science grads can google)...the structure became waterlogged and soggey like cabbage airport...then on the ultimate day,the structure simply gave in to its own weight. Hiyo story ya riparian ambiya dimwits...if the guy built on a grabbed riparian sawa, jail him...but the house did not crumble because it was built on a river. West-ket and Nakumatt UK are built inside the same river, they havent crumbled...I am sure they used the right cement and skill. Beat me up now. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
|
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
|
Impunity wrote:kiash wrote:[quote=hardwood]How do you even excavate the foundation for the building in such a situation? What happened to the 30m riparian zone on each side of the river? Kidero? Nema? Hata hiyo hapo nyuma itakuwa next. Let me tell you something, if you walk in the city surbubs hapo kwenyu majuu, you will realize that houses are built right close to the river/canals like shown up there in Hururma. With technology, all is possible. Tal a walk to NYC suburbs and Amsterdam canals...we have houses which were built 200 years ago by the water canals and still standing strong. What might have made this house to sink is simply poor workmanship! Please deposit this to #Kumisa Sacco in Kiambu. Now for Home Science graduates like @washiku and you,that house had a poor foundation, they used normal cement in an area which is 100% waterlogged year round...so what happened? The structure slowly sipped water by way of capilarity (Home science grads can google)...the structure became waterlogged and soggey like cabbage airport...then on the ultimate day,the structure simply gave in to its own weight. Hiyo story ya riparian ambiya dimwits...if the guy built on a grabbed riparian sawa, jail him...but the house did not crumble because it was built on a river. West-ket and Nakumatt UK are built inside the same river, they havent crumbled...I am sure they used the right cement and skill. Beat me up now. I agree with the above. Europeans have been building in the "riparian zone" for hundreds of years bila shida. Maybe we need to learn the skills from them. 
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
|
Blaming Kidero/Nema for this is akin to chasing a phantom, they are politically responsible for all decisions affecting such constructions but ultimately, they rely on minions to do their jobs. I read in today's papers that the 2 slumlords are to be charged with manslaughter. A fair decision as they are directly responsible for the construction. I would also like to see a specific county employee, NEMA employee, the contractor and Architect (I am sure the last 2 do not exist) responsible for approving this building face similar charges. Let this employees implicate their bosses if they can demonstrate that negligence was delegated. If responsibility needs to be scaled up, then why stop it at the Governor, how about take it all the way to the president, at the end of the day, he is the president of all of Kenya. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
|
|
|
Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/4/2007 Posts: 1,162
|
hardwood wrote:Impunity wrote:kiash wrote:[quote=hardwood]How do you even excavate the foundation for the building in such a situation? What happened to the 30m riparian zone on each side of the river? Kidero? Nema? Hata hiyo hapo nyuma itakuwa next. Let me tell you something, if you walk in the city surbubs hapo kwenyu majuu, you will realize that houses are built right close to the river/canals like shown up there in Hururma. With technology, all is possible. Tal a walk to NYC suburbs and Amsterdam canals...we have houses which were built 200 years ago by the water canals and still standing strong. What might have made this house to sink is simply poor workmanship! Please deposit this to #Kumisa Sacco in Kiambu. Now for Home Science graduates like @washiku and you,that house had a poor foundation, they used normal cement in an area which is 100% waterlogged year round...so what happened? The structure slowly sipped water by way of capilarity (Home science grads can google)...the structure became waterlogged and soggey like cabbage airport...then on the ultimate day,the structure simply gave in to its own weight. Hiyo story ya riparian ambiya dimwits...if the guy built on a grabbed riparian sawa, jail him...but the house did not crumble because it was built on a river. West-ket and Nakumatt UK are built inside the same river, they havent crumbled...I am sure they used the right cement and skill. Beat me up now. I agree with the above. Europeans have been building in the "riparian zone" for hundreds of years bila shida. Maybe we need to learn the skills from them. We in Kenya have the skills. This disaster is not due to lack of building skills.
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
|
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Blaming Kidero/Nema for this is akin to chasing a phantom, they are responsible for all decisions affecting such constructions but ultimately, they rely on minions to do their jobs.
I read in today's papers that the 2 slumlords are to be charged with manslaughter. A fair decision as they are directly responsible for the construction.
I would also like to see a specific county employee, NEMA employee, the contractor and Architect (I am sure the last 2 do not exist) responsible for approving this building face similar charges. Let this employees implicate their bosses if they can demonstrate that negligence was delegated.
If responsibility needs to be scaled up, then why stop it at the Governor, how about take it all the way to the president, at the end of the day, he is the president of all of Kenya. I am in agreement! there is also a level of personal responsibility that we as citizens should also take. People are careless with their lives and the lives of their families. How do you live in such a house and pay rent? really? then one hears fatalistic statements like "Oh.... Mungu ndio anatuchunga"... "Oh.... Mimi ni masikini".... Listen... hata kama wewe ni masikini level gani - you should know your life is not as cheep as you think. I am sure Lucy Kibaki would have paid millions to get that "life" you have. Why would you then just live it like it doesn't matter? why relegate yourself and your family's lives to statistics to be used during campaigns??? I know there are others in the blame chain but the 1st person who should be blamed is YOU! not all "poor" people live in dangling houses... tuwache ushenzi at a personal level... seriously! we cannot continue losing lives to stupid decisions and then make these lives political fodder. Oh... Kidero.... Oh Planner... hii ni 3rd world... take care of your life and that of your loved ones. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
|
masukuma wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Blaming Kidero/Nema for this is akin to chasing a phantom, they are responsible for all decisions affecting such constructions but ultimately, they rely on minions to do their jobs.
I read in today's papers that the 2 slumlords are to be charged with manslaughter. A fair decision as they are directly responsible for the construction.
I would also like to see a specific county employee, NEMA employee, the contractor and Architect (I am sure the last 2 do not exist) responsible for approving this building face similar charges. Let this employees implicate their bosses if they can demonstrate that negligence was delegated.
If responsibility needs to be scaled up, then why stop it at the Governor, how about take it all the way to the president, at the end of the day, he is the president of all of Kenya. I am in agreement! there is also a level of personal responsibility that we as citizens should also take. People are careless with their lives and the lives of their families. How do you live in such a house and pay rent? really? then one hears fatalistic statements like "Oh.... Mungu ndio anatuchunga"... "Oh.... Mimi ni masikini".... Listen... hata kama wewe ni masikini level gani - you should know your life is not as cheep as you think. I am sure Lucy Kibaki would have paid millions to get that "life" you have. Why would you then just live it like it doesn't matter? why relegate yourself and your family's lives to statistics to be used during campaigns??? I know there are others in the blame chain but the 1st person who should be blamed is YOU! not all "poor" people live in dangling houses... tuwache ushenzi at a personal level... seriously! we cannot continue losing lives to stupid decisions and then make these lives political fodder. Oh... Kidero.... Oh Planner... hii ni 3rd world... take care of your life and that of your loved ones. On this note when that ka mini mall opens hapo opp T mall we should all boycott going huko.. possunt quia posse videntur
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
|
hardwood wrote:Impunity wrote:kiash wrote:[quote=hardwood]How do you even excavate the foundation for the building in such a situation? What happened to the 30m riparian zone on each side of the river? Kidero? Nema? Hata hiyo hapo nyuma itakuwa next. Let me tell you something, if you walk in the city surbubs hapo kwenyu majuu, you will realize that houses are built right close to the river/canals like shown up there in Hururma. With technology, all is possible. Tal a walk to NYC suburbs and Amsterdam canals...we have houses which were built 200 years ago by the water canals and still standing strong. What might have made this house to sink is simply poor workmanship! Please deposit this to #Kumisa Sacco in Kiambu. Now for Home Science graduates like @washiku and you,that house had a poor foundation, they used normal cement in an area which is 100% waterlogged year round...so what happened? The structure slowly sipped water by way of capilarity (Home science grads can google)...the structure became waterlogged and soggey like cabbage airport...then on the ultimate day,the structure simply gave in to its own weight. Hiyo story ya riparian ambiya dimwits...if the guy built on a grabbed riparian sawa, jail him...but the house did not crumble because it was built on a river. West-ket and Nakumatt UK are built inside the same river, they havent crumbled...I am sure they used the right cement and skill. Beat me up now. I agree with the above. Europeans have been building in the "riparian zone" for hundreds of years bila shida. Maybe we need to learn the skills from them. 400 years ago when Romeo and Juliet were in love, the houses they stayed and merried were all built ndani ya maji...the City Of Venice! Yet 400 years later and with all the technologies we cannot build a simple structure in a river! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
|
|
|
Wazua
»
Club SK
»
Life
»
House Sinks in Huruma
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.
|