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Black Jews AKA lost tribes of Israel
majimaji
#41 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:54:45 AM
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There are a lot of bogus stories that originate from the middle east. That's because the people there stay too much in the sun with nothing to do except cook stories.
masukuma
#42 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:11:52 PM
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
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this includes the narratives of the dorobo and other early dwellers of this part of theNot planet.

The Dorobo narrative is real. They owned most of the forested lands in Southern Kikuyuland

Even upto the coming of the British, small groups of the Dorobo still existed separate from the Gikuyu! And a number of Kikuyu trace their ancestry from them

yeah.... that's their recent narrative (500 years?) which is true... but if you take the clock back I am sure it won't tell you about the other people they found in their current place. not that it was uninhabited. The history of the world is such that more often than not history is written by the victors. Dorobo were victors for sometime - their narrative held until it was nearly overwritten by the newer victor. that is what I mean. These lands have always been inhabited we just don't know who those people were.

So according to your theory, every point on earth was always inhabited??

well... not always... however human beings have walked the planet for around say...200k years.. if the cradle of humanity is east africa 200k years ago and the out of africa theory holds

we have had human beings in east africa for longer period of time than anywhere else on the planet. it's not inconceivable that populations moved around over and over again. We are talking 200k years of human history!


Those were not human beings.

Define "human beings" - if you are classified as a homo sapien... the naked ape. bipedal certain cranial capacities e.t.c. you are human being. The same way the San and Khoisan are considered as human as the Innuit or the aborigines of Tasmania or twa of congo forest or the "tall" patagonian Indians.
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kaka2za
#43 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:10:05 PM
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Over there in Khartoum, the argument is 'who is an Arab?'
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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masukuma
#44 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 3:27:53 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Over there in Khartoum, the argument is 'who is an Arab?'

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middle eastern Arabs looking at two black dudes debating their "arabness" are like... "say what?"
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gk
#45 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:57:42 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
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Where did the Tutsi come from? Their physical features n cattle keeping habits are non Bantu unlike all their immediate neighbours n during the genocide they were being told to return to their home in Ethiopia.....a fallacy advanced by some like John Speke unable to explain their origins.

That theory is elaborated by Ugandan history scholar Mahmood Mamdani in his book on the 1994 genocide, From Victims to Killers

He further explains in his book that they brought with them centralized govt when they migrated from Ethiopia after which they Lorded over the Bantu Hutu

I find it plausible that the Batutsi are descended from Ethiopia or some Cushites. One time in a bus I chatted with a lady who told me she was a Mnyarwanda. I remember pointing out to her that she looked more Ethiopian than 'other African'


I will look it up... that Mamdani theory. But then is there any trace of Ethiopia linguistically? Also, Ethiopians arent as tall and thin. N why travel that far n settle in densely poplulated area fighting to "dominate" a people 5 times ur number when there were other opportunities along the way?
masukuma
#46 Posted : Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:33:55 PM
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gk wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
gk wrote:
Where did the Tutsi come from? Their physical features n cattle keeping habits are non Bantu unlike all their immediate neighbours n during the genocide they were being told to return to their home in Ethiopia.....a fallacy advanced by some like John Speke unable to explain their origins.

That theory is elaborated by Ugandan history scholar Mahmood Mamdani in his book on the 1994 genocide, From Victims to Killers

He further explains in his book that they brought with them centralized govt when they migrated from Ethiopia after which they Lorded over the Bantu Hutu

I find it plausible that the Batutsi are descended from Ethiopia or some Cushites. One time in a bus I chatted with a lady who told me she was a Mnyarwanda. I remember pointing out to her that she looked more Ethiopian than 'other African'


I will look it up... that Mamdani theory. But then is there any trace of Ethiopia linguistically? Also, Ethiopians arent as tall and thin. N why travel that far n settle in densely poplulated area fighting to "dominate" a people 5 times ur number when there were other opportunities along the way?

the hamitic looks of the Tutsis are a curiosity however I don't think they migrated all the way south as a monolithic entity - their genetic traits must have been left with the groups they interacted with.... trace the genes trace the route.
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masukuma
#47 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2016 12:17:11 PM
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harrydre
#48 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:08:31 PM
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I was reading some article that Africans have the most diverse genetics. It went further to try and compare genetic diversity with poverty....
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masukuma
#49 Posted : Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:42:33 PM
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harrydre wrote:
I was reading some article that Africans have the most diverse genetics. It went further to try and compare genetic diversity with poverty....

I think it's a case of transitive relations - the same thinking that is linked with systemic racism. It usually goes something like this GROUP OF PEOPLE HAVE A PHYSICAL TRAIT, SAID PEOPLE HAVE A CERTAIN QUALITY. PHYSICAL TRAIT IS THE CAUSE OF QUALITY.
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Much Know
#50 Posted : Wednesday, April 06, 2016 10:50:59 AM
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harrydre wrote:
I was reading some article that Africans have the most diverse genetics. It went further to try and compare genetic diversity with poverty....

People who have never read & understood Economics or Business/Finance e.t.c to an advanced level often have this problem of understanding what the causes of poverty really are, 'displaying their ignorance' so to speak.
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