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masukuma
#81 Posted : Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:28:37 PM
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murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
Back to the article.

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On Wednesday evening, KRA confirmed that its staff members had been part of the syndicate and were under arrest. Commissioner General John Njiraini said KRA “played a key role in unearthing the crime … whose outcome has been the arrest of several suspects among them KRA staff in the ICT department”.

The cybercrime syndicate was operating in the Nairobi CBD, Muthaiga, Thika, and Roysambu, and had been robbing banks using Salami attacks (kidogo kidogo) and electronic transfers as well as trafficking drugs. They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. During the crackdown, police recovered several vehicle number plates from one of the houses.........


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At the KRA offices in Nairobi, detectives discovered a laptop hidden within the network chambers “and connected through port 11” which allowed Mr Ogalo to have unfettered access to the system.

In Ogalo’s house, police said they found an AK47 rifle, computers, mini servers, cables, hard disks and a narcotic substance whose samples were taken to the Government Chemist for verification and classification. Ogalo is also sought by the Banking Fraud Investigation Unit (BFID), and is suspected to have been involved in the theft of Sh50 million from the Kenya Police Sacco.


exactly... it makes sense...
Quote:
had been robbing banks using Salami attacks and electronic transfers
<-- YES BANKS...SALAMI ATTACKS ONLY WORKS WITH BANKS OR AIRTIME E.T.C. basically move small amounts around to where someone else can use them or take them off the system. That cannot happen with KRA coz they don't have electronic currency that someone can 'use' or 'take out'

Quote:
They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them.
now this is what from the onset I was saying... the only way you can 'rob' KRA (directly) would be reducing tax obligations of people. A car is supposed to attract a tax of 300k, you pay 100k... it looks like 300k on the system. you pay the guy who 'facilitated' 100k!


There's no way money would disappear in the bank without manipulation of transactions at KRA.

I see we are progressing... so money 'disappeared' in the bank? i.e. the bank received instructions to send out moneys -right?

I am yet to come across a claim where money 'disappeared' in the bank! ama iko? that would be hacking the bank!
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murchr
#82 Posted : Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:30:41 PM
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masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
Back to the article.

Quote:
On Wednesday evening, KRA confirmed that its staff members had been part of the syndicate and were under arrest. Commissioner General John Njiraini said KRA “played a key role in unearthing the crime … whose outcome has been the arrest of several suspects among them KRA staff in the ICT department”.

The cybercrime syndicate was operating in the Nairobi CBD, Muthaiga, Thika, and Roysambu, and had been robbing banks using Salami attacks (kidogo kidogo) and electronic transfers as well as trafficking drugs. They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. During the crackdown, police recovered several vehicle number plates from one of the houses.........


Quote:
At the KRA offices in Nairobi, detectives discovered a laptop hidden within the network chambers “and connected through port 11” which allowed Mr Ogalo to have unfettered access to the system.

In Ogalo’s house, police said they found an AK47 rifle, computers, mini servers, cables, hard disks and a narcotic substance whose samples were taken to the Government Chemist for verification and classification. Ogalo is also sought by the Banking Fraud Investigation Unit (BFID), and is suspected to have been involved in the theft of Sh50 million from the Kenya Police Sacco.


exactly... it makes sense...
Quote:
had been robbing banks using Salami attacks and electronic transfers
<-- YES BANKS...SALAMI ATTACKS ONLY WORKS WITH BANKS OR AIRTIME E.T.C. basically move small amounts around to where someone else can use them or take them off the system. That cannot happen with KRA coz they don't have electronic currency that someone can 'use' or 'take out'

Quote:
They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them.
now this is what from the onset I was saying... the only way you can 'rob' KRA (directly) would be reducing tax obligations of people. A car is supposed to attract a tax of 300k, you pay 100k... it looks like 300k on the system. you pay the guy who 'facilitated' 100k!


There's no way money would disappear in the bank without manipulation of transactions at KRA.

I see we are progressing... so money 'disappeared' in the bank? i.e. the bank received instructions to send out moneys -right?

I am yet to come across a claim where money 'disappeared' in the bank! ama iko? that would be hacking the bank!



Money also disappeared in KRA entries and made way to some other bank account
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masukuma
#83 Posted : Saturday, March 25, 2017 9:53:02 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,822
Location: Nairobi
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
Back to the article.

Quote:
On Wednesday evening, KRA confirmed that its staff members had been part of the syndicate and were under arrest. Commissioner General John Njiraini said KRA “played a key role in unearthing the crime … whose outcome has been the arrest of several suspects among them KRA staff in the ICT department”.

The cybercrime syndicate was operating in the Nairobi CBD, Muthaiga, Thika, and Roysambu, and had been robbing banks using Salami attacks (kidogo kidogo) and electronic transfers as well as trafficking drugs. They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. During the crackdown, police recovered several vehicle number plates from one of the houses.........


Quote:
At the KRA offices in Nairobi, detectives discovered a laptop hidden within the network chambers “and connected through port 11” which allowed Mr Ogalo to have unfettered access to the system.

In Ogalo’s house, police said they found an AK47 rifle, computers, mini servers, cables, hard disks and a narcotic substance whose samples were taken to the Government Chemist for verification and classification. Ogalo is also sought by the Banking Fraud Investigation Unit (BFID), and is suspected to have been involved in the theft of Sh50 million from the Kenya Police Sacco.


exactly... it makes sense...
Quote:
had been robbing banks using Salami attacks and electronic transfers
<-- YES BANKS...SALAMI ATTACKS ONLY WORKS WITH BANKS OR AIRTIME E.T.C. basically move small amounts around to where someone else can use them or take them off the system. That cannot happen with KRA coz they don't have electronic currency that someone can 'use' or 'take out'

Quote:
They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them.
now this is what from the onset I was saying... the only way you can 'rob' KRA (directly) would be reducing tax obligations of people. A car is supposed to attract a tax of 300k, you pay 100k... it looks like 300k on the system. you pay the guy who 'facilitated' 100k!


There's no way money would disappear in the bank without manipulation of transactions at KRA.

I see we are progressing... so money 'disappeared' in the bank? i.e. the bank received instructions to send out moneys -right?

I am yet to come across a claim where money 'disappeared' in the bank! ama iko? that would be hacking the bank!



Money also disappeared in KRA entries and made way to some other bank account

so the 'hack' was one that made KRA send money to other accounts? 4billion?
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murchr
#84 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 12:41:07 AM
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masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
Back to the article.

Quote:
On Wednesday evening, KRA confirmed that its staff members had been part of the syndicate and were under arrest. Commissioner General John Njiraini said KRA “played a key role in unearthing the crime … whose outcome has been the arrest of several suspects among them KRA staff in the ICT department”.

The cybercrime syndicate was operating in the Nairobi CBD, Muthaiga, Thika, and Roysambu, and had been robbing banks using Salami attacks (kidogo kidogo) and electronic transfers as well as trafficking drugs. They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. During the crackdown, police recovered several vehicle number plates from one of the houses.........


Quote:
At the KRA offices in Nairobi, detectives discovered a laptop hidden within the network chambers “and connected through port 11” which allowed Mr Ogalo to have unfettered access to the system.

In Ogalo’s house, police said they found an AK47 rifle, computers, mini servers, cables, hard disks and a narcotic substance whose samples were taken to the Government Chemist for verification and classification. Ogalo is also sought by the Banking Fraud Investigation Unit (BFID), and is suspected to have been involved in the theft of Sh50 million from the Kenya Police Sacco.


exactly... it makes sense...
Quote:
had been robbing banks using Salami attacks and electronic transfers
<-- YES BANKS...SALAMI ATTACKS ONLY WORKS WITH BANKS OR AIRTIME E.T.C. basically move small amounts around to where someone else can use them or take them off the system. That cannot happen with KRA coz they don't have electronic currency that someone can 'use' or 'take out'

Quote:
They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them.
now this is what from the onset I was saying... the only way you can 'rob' KRA (directly) would be reducing tax obligations of people. A car is supposed to attract a tax of 300k, you pay 100k... it looks like 300k on the system. you pay the guy who 'facilitated' 100k!


There's no way money would disappear in the bank without manipulation of transactions at KRA.

I see we are progressing... so money 'disappeared' in the bank? i.e. the bank received instructions to send out moneys -right?

I am yet to come across a claim where money 'disappeared' in the bank! ama iko? that would be hacking the bank!



Money also disappeared in KRA entries and made way to some other bank account

so the 'hack' was one that made KRA send money to other accounts? 4billion?


Are you disputing that manipulation of entries/transactions happened at KRA?

I dont get you. First you were of the opinion that KRA doesnt receive any monies. If the Salami attack has been going on for a while is 4B too big for KRA?
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masukuma
#85 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 8:19:49 AM
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Posts: 13,822
Location: Nairobi
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
Back to the article.

Quote:
On Wednesday evening, KRA confirmed that its staff members had been part of the syndicate and were under arrest. Commissioner General John Njiraini said KRA “played a key role in unearthing the crime … whose outcome has been the arrest of several suspects among them KRA staff in the ICT department”.

The cybercrime syndicate was operating in the Nairobi CBD, Muthaiga, Thika, and Roysambu, and had been robbing banks using Salami attacks (kidogo kidogo) and electronic transfers as well as trafficking drugs. They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them. During the crackdown, police recovered several vehicle number plates from one of the houses.........


Quote:
At the KRA offices in Nairobi, detectives discovered a laptop hidden within the network chambers “and connected through port 11” which allowed Mr Ogalo to have unfettered access to the system.

In Ogalo’s house, police said they found an AK47 rifle, computers, mini servers, cables, hard disks and a narcotic substance whose samples were taken to the Government Chemist for verification and classification. Ogalo is also sought by the Banking Fraud Investigation Unit (BFID), and is suspected to have been involved in the theft of Sh50 million from the Kenya Police Sacco.


exactly... it makes sense...
Quote:
had been robbing banks using Salami attacks and electronic transfers
<-- YES BANKS...SALAMI ATTACKS ONLY WORKS WITH BANKS OR AIRTIME E.T.C. basically move small amounts around to where someone else can use them or take them off the system. That cannot happen with KRA coz they don't have electronic currency that someone can 'use' or 'take out'

Quote:
They have also been colluding with motor vehicle importers to evade tax and were illegally registering them.
now this is what from the onset I was saying... the only way you can 'rob' KRA (directly) would be reducing tax obligations of people. A car is supposed to attract a tax of 300k, you pay 100k... it looks like 300k on the system. you pay the guy who 'facilitated' 100k!


There's no way money would disappear in the bank without manipulation of transactions at KRA.

I see we are progressing... so money 'disappeared' in the bank? i.e. the bank received instructions to send out moneys -right?

I am yet to come across a claim where money 'disappeared' in the bank! ama iko? that would be hacking the bank!



Money also disappeared in KRA entries and made way to some other bank account

so the 'hack' was one that made KRA send money to other accounts? 4billion?


Are you disputing that manipulation of entries/transactions happened at KRA?

I dont get you. First you were of the opinion that KRA doesnt receive any monies. If the Salami attack has been going on for a while is 4B too big for KRA?


I am saying... the only way this makes sense is if these manipulations were to REDUCE TAX OBLIGATIONS OF SOME PEOPLE by reducing the amount to be paid by 4 billion. as opposed to manipulations to make KRA 'pay' 4billion to some accounts. the salami attack you referenced talked about the same group hitting A BANK not KRA. if KRA receives monies... it'self as in CASH - robbing that would need a drive-in and since we are talking about 'hackers' with laptops plugged into their network it means these 'cash' amounts are not the ones we are talking about... it's all electronic.
So @muchr ... again... slowly.. tell us your version... how was money stolen?
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Ngalaka
#86 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 9:11:34 AM
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Eish, @Masukuma!
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mkenyan
#87 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 9:12:40 AM
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masukuma wrote:
the only way this whole thing makes sense is if a guy reduced tax obligations of certain companies and the sum total reduction was 4B and was paid by the said companies a fraction of the amount he "saved" them from.
Nothing else makes any sense!! nothing!! Kuiba from Kra? thats like stealing from their bank accounts... thats on the banks side. not KRA!! nothing about the 'stealing from KRA' claim makes any sense!

indeed. this is the only sensible way i can see someone hacking and stealing money from kra.
Ngalaka
#88 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 9:21:50 AM
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mkenyan wrote:

indeed. this is the only sensible way i can see someone hacking and stealing money from kra.

In fact we are yet to be clear on if KRA indeed keeps money within its system in electronic form and whether or not CBK would be ok with that.
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Swenani
#89 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 10:59:31 AM
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@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K
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#90 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 12:08:25 PM
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murchr
#91 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 4:03:17 PM
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Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K


You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home.

For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught.

Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else.

For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people.

This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member.
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#92 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 5:08:11 PM
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Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K

Online payment vouchers linked to banks is another possibility
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Ngalaka
#93 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 5:53:32 PM
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Quote:
Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K


Quote:
You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home.

For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught.

Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else.

For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people.

This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member.

Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose!

Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders.

Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax.

How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing.

Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies.

Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers!

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murchr
#94 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 6:14:49 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
Quote:
Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K


Quote:
You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home.

For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught.

Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else.

For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people.

This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member.

Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose!

Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders.

Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax.

How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing.

Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies.

Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers!



Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this.
Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks

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masukuma
#95 Posted : Monday, March 27, 2017 4:02:03 PM
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murchr wrote:

Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this.
Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks

yeah so that someone can connect from outside and monkey with the data!
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Hobitke
#96 Posted : Monday, March 27, 2017 6:13:39 PM
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murchr wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
Quote:
Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K


Quote:
You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home.

For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught.

Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else.

For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people.

This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member.

Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose!

Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders.

Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax.

How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing.

Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies.

Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers!



Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this.
Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks

How do you know this?


masukuma
#97 Posted : Monday, March 27, 2017 11:16:58 PM
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Hobitke wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
Quote:
Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K


Quote:
You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home.

For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught.

Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else.

For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people.

This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member.

Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose!

Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders.

Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax.

How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing.

Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies.

Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers!



Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this.
Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks




How do you know this?

it was in reports all over the place
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Swenani
#98 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:33:30 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Hobitke wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
Quote:
Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K


Quote:
You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home.

For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught.

Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else.

For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people.

This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member.

Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose!

Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders.

Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax.

How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing.

Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies.

Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers!



Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this.
Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks




How do you know this?

it was in reports all over the place


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FRM2011
#99 Posted : Thursday, April 13, 2017 4:48:51 PM
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This country of ours. Mungu atuhurumie.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...87962-of8hkn/index.html

Turns out the alleged "Russian" accomplice in the supposed hacking syndicate is an innocent American couple who had been in contact with ogolla. Cops have released them for lack of evidence.

Who wants to bet the cases will collapse one by one.
maka
#100 Posted : Thursday, April 13, 2017 5:47:16 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

This country of ours. Mungu atuhurumie.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...87962-of8hkn/index.html

Turns out the alleged "Russian" accomplice in the supposed hacking syndicate is an innocent American couple who had been in contact with ogolla. Cops have released them for lack of evidence.

Who wants to bet the cases will collapse one by one.


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