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Anglo-Leasing Payout
jmbada
#81 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 10:31:53 AM
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1. Why are these being referred to as Anglo Leasing payments? These are payments to First Mercantile and Universal Satspace LLC for delivery of services to Postal Corporation (VSAT connection and network management/bandwidth provision)
2. My suspicion is that the UK Law Courts gave the award because the above services were
a. Either delivered
b. Available for delivery, but the contracting entity, Postal Corp. may have cancelled the contract after having signed the contract.
3. Generally, UK courts NEVER interfere with private contracts, which means that once it is proven that two parties entered into a contract, then the contract MUST be honoured...That is why firms request international contracts to be under English Law.
4. If the contracts were subject to English Law, then Kenyan Courts can merely opine but can't pass internationally-recognized judgments
5. Only a court can stop payment!!!
alma
#82 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:08:28 AM
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jmbada don't forget to add to your dissertation that for a contract to be valid then there must be specific performance. A contract does not mean pay, it means provide service and I pay.

If you dig deeper you will get to understand why the LSK is asking for the pleadings in the cases. What exactly did the gov't of the day tell the court? That is where the corruption lies.
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#83 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 1:01:12 PM
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@jmbada, I understand they are called Anglo Leasing because the garment entered into contracts with the companies but had no cash. A company called Anglo Leasing paid on behalf of the garment and is now asking for repayment of the loans.
jmbada
#84 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 4:38:30 PM
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alma wrote:
jmbada don't forget to add to your dissertation that for a contract to be valid then there must be specific performance. A contract does not mean pay, it means provide service and I pay.

If you dig deeper you will get to understand why the LSK is asking for the pleadings in the cases. What exactly did the gov't of the day tell the court? That is where the corruption lies.

I seriously doubt a UK court would award payment against a flawed contract. Happy to dig deeper. The judges ruling should be available online soon / by now.
butterflyke
#85 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 10:15:30 PM
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So suddenly we want to comply with international law because there are 'consequences'.......abk

How exactly are we going to afford this? Is there a kitty somewhere for monumental gaarment messes? Ama tusahau laptops na SGR?
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
jmbada
#86 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 9:09:07 AM
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butterflyke wrote:
So suddenly we want to comply with international law because there are 'consequences'.......abk

How exactly are we going to afford this? Is there a kitty somewhere for monumental gaarment messes? Ama tusahau laptops na SGR?

Boss, read my posts carefully. With a court ruling, and no further avenues for appeal, we are going to pay. Either by sending the money or via attachment and auction of government assets, but pay we must. And Kenya DOES honour international court RULINGS.
just for clarity, I am not saying I support the payment, I am saying that there is no choice in the matter.
washiku
#87 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 10:07:55 AM
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jmbada wrote:
butterflyke wrote:
So suddenly we want to comply with international law because there are 'consequences'.......abk

How exactly are we going to afford this? Is there a kitty somewhere for monumental gaarment messes? Ama tusahau laptops na SGR?

Boss, read my posts carefully. With a court ruling, and no further avenues for appeal, we are going to pay. Either by sending the money or via attachment and auction of government assets, but pay we must. And Kenya DOES honour international court RULINGS.
just for clarity, I am not saying I support the payment, I am saying that there is no choice in the matter.


Shouldn't we try diplomacy? Many always thought it can't work on court matters yet we saw it work in a personal matter. Maybe we should try it on a National matter. We better fail while trying, and even if we fail, we shall say we tried. Our friends in fighting graft n poverty may opt to pay it up for us as a grant, you know anything is possible. We should attempt anything that would save us this loss. Our police need houses, cars, guns, health and more of them.
Siringi
#88 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 10:18:35 AM
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Question is How many of these had work done and completed (performed)?

How many were cancelled or breached and consequently since contracts complete with Authorised signatories exist who owes who money ?

The rest ni siasa tu
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"πŸ˜–πŸ˜‘KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
Siringi
#89 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 10:20:53 AM
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ION
"πŸ˜–πŸ˜‘KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
washiku
#90 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 11:12:55 AM
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Siringi wrote:
ION


This is where politicians makes one wonder what stuff they are made of. Why say they will instead of just revealing? nkt.


jmbada
#91 Posted : Friday, May 02, 2014 3:47:06 PM
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They would not even DARE name anyone, unless when inside the protective walls of parliament. And parliament is now in recess. Called a red herring to remain relevant and appear to be fighting for the people . Owners of the firms are contained in company documents registered offshore.
KulaRaha
#92 Posted : Wednesday, May 07, 2014 4:11:36 PM
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just a small infographic with what our rulers cost us:



Pls ensure you keep voting on a tribal basis.

Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
butterflyke
#93 Posted : Wednesday, May 07, 2014 5:01:11 PM
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jmbada wrote:
butterflyke wrote:
So suddenly we want to comply with international law because there are 'consequences'.......abk

How exactly are we going to afford this? Is there a kitty somewhere for monumental gaarment messes? Ama tusahau laptops na SGR?

Boss, read my posts carefully. With a court ruling, and no further avenues for appeal, we are going to pay. Either by sending the money or via attachment and auction of government assets, but pay we must. And Kenya DOES honour international court RULINGS.
just for clarity, I am not saying I support the payment, I am saying that there is no choice in the matter.


@jmbada, i hear you.

at the end of day, this is really sad. my point was how gaarment is so quick to now comply when they fought tooth, nail and jet to fight 'international law' that kenya had signed up to in other matters. #selectivecompliance
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
jmbada
#94 Posted : Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:22:18 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
just a small infographic with what our rulers cost us:



Pls ensure you keep voting on a tribal basis.


I don't even get the point of this post! Just because someone drew a cartoon and created some bullet points Titled "Fact..." then one is supposed to believe it? If this was the case, we would not need national audits and accounting systems, just good cartoonists and someone who can type bullet points!
Robinhood
#95 Posted : Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:27:55 PM
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Watalipa tu mpende msipende
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
Ngong
#96 Posted : Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:48:56 PM
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Let us pay lakini huyu jamaa tunalipa aje achukue hio chapa parliament!
mawinder
#97 Posted : Thursday, May 08, 2014 8:17:13 AM
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washiku wrote:
Siringi wrote:
ION


This is where politicians makes one wonder what stuff they are made of. Why say they will instead of just revealing? nkt.



I thought they are well known i.e Jimmy Wanjigi,Alfred Getonga,Dave Mwangi etc.
Swenani
#98 Posted : Thursday, May 08, 2014 8:36:43 AM
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mawinder wrote:
washiku wrote:
Siringi wrote:
ION


This is where politicians makes one wonder what stuff they are made of. Why say they will instead of just revealing? nkt.



I thought they are well known i.e Jimmy Wanjigi,Alfred Getonga,Dave Mwangi etc.

Back in the days we used to take chang'aa with DDaventry Mwangi when he was a D.O in western Kenya or is this a different Dave mwangi?
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Swenani
#99 Posted : Thursday, May 08, 2014 11:08:13 AM
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IN March 2006 Uhuru Kenyatta, now President but then Public Accounts Committee chairman, presented a report in Parliament naming the individuals allegedly behind the Anglo Leasing scandal.

Other than individuals linked to the companies that received the contracts, the PAC report referred to various local individuals.

During the PAC investigations, former Governance and Ethics Secretary John Githongo named businessman Jimmy Wanjigi, President Kibaki's Personal Secretary Alfred Getonga, Internal Security Minister Chris Murungaru, Internal Security PS Dave Mwangi and Finance Secretary Joseph Oyula.
- See more at: http://the-star.co.ke/ne...cam#sthash.4cHNgEqy.dpuf
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Siringi
#100 Posted : Thursday, May 08, 2014 4:07:31 PM
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[quote=Swenani]IN March 2006 Uhuru Kenyatta, now President but then Public Accounts Committee chairman, presented a report in Parliament naming the individuals allegedly behind the Anglo Leasing scandal.

Other than individuals linked to the companies that received the contracts, the PAC report referred to various local individuals.

During the PAC investigations, former Governance and Ethics Secretary John Githongo named businessman Jimmy Wanjigi, President Kibaki's Personal Secretary Alfred Getonga, Internal Security Minister Chris Murungaru, Internal Security PS Dave Mwangi and Finance Secretary Joseph Oyula.
- See more at: http://the-star.co.ke/ne...am#sthash.4cHNgEqy.dpuf[/quote]

And they had to scream UK's name on the headline ndo wauze ISORAIT




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