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USIU vs STRATH MBA
zamali
#41 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:35:00 AM
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@ Mukiha,he he he...

May not be popular ...but during my days,JAB could force people into unpopular universities. I had a friend who had A of 95 but was pushed to Egerton for their computer science degree,he almost forfeited a chance for university education !


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mukiha
#42 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:13:00 AM
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@zamali; it could have been because Egerton was the first Kenyan university in to offer degrees in computer science....in fact,by the time the first group graduated,UoN had not started one! they were still offering the post-grad-dip.

BTW zamali,what does your friend say about his experience at Egerton?

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zamali
#43 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:41:00 PM
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@ Mukiha

He does not have kind words for Egerton,they were always at home due to strikes..he completed studies in the US!

I wonder if Egerton have any 'hot cake' courses eg MBA etc. They HARDLY advertise unlike THE,JKUAT,KU,MOI,KEMU,CATHOLIC,DAYSTAR,USIU and others. I will enroll for an MBA at THE


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mukiha
#44 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:36:00 PM
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Ah;Yes; those were the days of one Japheth Kiptoon when the university used to go on strike virtually every month. One group completed their degrees in six years and nine months! And the university skipped a year without a graduating class.

One time,after a strike and students being chased home,Kiptoon commented at a senate meeting that 'this place is very nice when there are no students. You can work very well inpiece'!! What and idiot!

Since his departure,the place has improved significantly. I've heard that many head teachers prefer Egerton graduates because they have higher work ethics than the rest!

As far as advertising is concerned,can we say 'chema chajiuza'? Or is it that they have never figured the need for it?

Anyway,as I said earlier,I think there are something right!

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Spendthrift
#45 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:16:00 PM
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@ Mukiha,I can tell you went to Egerton.

Ama kweli,kila mwamba ngoma huvutia kwake. I wish you had taken a diploma in one university,undergrad in another,postgrad dip in a third,and your masters degree in yet another. Then you will be able to speak more 'correctly'.

I hate the excuse people use,ati 'I went to USIU because in public lunee bins,there are always strikes and people take ages to finish their studies'. This is bull crap. I survived two major strikes and still made it out of one lunee bin in four years. You should only talk like this if your KCSE slip indicates you actually qualified for entry into any of the many state universities around.



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Obi 1 Kanobi
#46 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:43:00 PM
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I was in Egerton,I liked it alot. I think all Universities should be detached from centres of population the way Eger was.

I also hope they stay away from the Commercial style business courses that are currently the in thing in Kenyan colleges. I believe they do have parrallel degree programmes mainly business admin and MBA in their Nakuru Town Campus.

I would like for them to concentrate on agricultural sciences which is what the college was set up to offer initially. This program set attracts alot of funding from International agencies and all they need to do is concentrate.

I recently visited their website and nearly puked. Looks like it was done in MS DOS. And while there,the Comp science studies they offered was in hardware engineering,no software engineering.


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jitetee
#47 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:46:00 PM
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@mukiha - Ambia wao bwana.

Remember 'sic donec'?

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Mkimwa
#48 Posted : Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:39:00 PM
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My thinking...
An MBA nowadays is just a paper,whether it is from UON,JKUAT,Strathmore,Egerton,JKUAT..e.t.c. What matters is the value addition to you as a person,i.e. the experience.

Strathmore: -
- Different way of learning,its not your normal lets go to class and listen to the lecturer as we take notes,pass the CAT,pass the Exam,write thesis. I think it stimulates your thinking along the way. i was told they learn based on case studies,e.t.c.
- Superior networking. see how the CEO or the HR director of company x thinks,if thats where you want to be. Interact with senior management,rub shoulders with them. Life has taught me that the best jobs,contracts,contacts,deals come as a result of networking.
-Cost is obviously an issue.

USIU:
- An engineer doing his MBA there tells me that their course is enriching. Divided opinion about whether the degrees can be bought using your money or using sex.. However,i know one lady who went to USIU,and because of her business acumen and skills,i would employ her anytime in my firm as a manager.

UON/JKUAT/MOI/Egerton.
- I went through 5 years of undergrad,and only met one or two lecturers who inspired/influenced my way of thinking totally. People i can look upto. People who are motivated,people who want to bring out the best in you. People i can have intelligent conversations with. that summarizes it for me about pubic universities.. if the person at the front does not inspire me,its a no no no.
- I would think the same lecturers teach at some private universities.. so maybe this argument may not hold water,lakini wacha ikae. once beaten twice shy.
-My sis was doing an MBA from JKUAT. I was thoroughly dissapointed with the experience she got.

VALUE:
What does the MBA add to me as a person besides that paper? By opting for that MBA,what have i really gained? Has it really changed me? Has it changed my way of thinking? why waste time where there is no value?

Sharpen your skills ready to compete in an ever demanding world.

And that is why am applying to go to MIT,and Stanford or Cambridge. God help me.
mukiha
#49 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2009 4:56:00 AM
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For the avoidance of doubt,I feel compelled to state this categorically:

I DID NOT STUDY AT EGERTON.

@Spendthrift,Obi,jitetee: sorry to burst your bubble!!

@Obi; I have a friend with a name similar to your screen-name who used to teach there in 1990s... ama ni wewe?

@Mkimwa; the kind of MBA you are looking for,one that changes and challenges your thinking and your personality,the one that inspires you to greater things in life and business,other than just a promotion and a fatter salary...can be found at Leicester.

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zamali
#50 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2009 5:06:00 AM
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@ Mkimwa,quoting wikipedia ;

The MBA degree has since achieved worldwide recognition as a professional degree. Graduates of accredited MBA programs are well prepared to undertake advanced professional occupations in businesses,as well as in colleges and universities as instructors of business administration and management.

Any certificate is normally accepted as 'proof' of competence by an employer.

I have concluded that an MBA from any recognised university would do, choice (arranged by priority) will only be dictated by;

1. Finances ( If I can afford max Ksh 200,000 per year,I will opt for THE MBA..)

2. Geographical location ( if working in Nakuru,you wont attend Strath. Or you may prefer USIU because you live and work along Thika road...

3. Social factors. some people just go for MBA because a friend is attending classes there!


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