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mlennyma
#41 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:54:05 PM
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I have received the scrip pal today, you only need to return if you opt for cash and not shares just like cfci last year
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citymayor
#42 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 1:27:03 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
I have received the scrip pal today, you only need to return if you opt for cash and not shares just like cfci last year


@mlennyma will the scrip shares rank pari passu with existing shares in determining rights allocation in second half 2016? I smell dilution
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mlennyma
#43 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 3:17:49 PM
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citymayor wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I have received the scrip pal today, you only need to return if you opt for cash and not shares just like cfci last year


@mlennyma will the scrip shares rank pari passu with existing shares in determining rights allocation in second half 2016? I smell dilution

if you agree to take them I think they should be included in your holding but they are very few if 1000 shares attract only 25 scrip shares
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Ebenyo
#44 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 3:28:09 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
I have received the scrip pal today, you only need to return if you opt for cash and not shares just like cfci last year

@ mlenyma i have not received mine.i have checked my cds account but nothing.i have checked the post box also but nothing.how did u get urs?
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mlennyma
#45 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2016 3:38:19 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I have received the scrip pal today, you only need to return if you opt for cash and not shares just like cfci last year

@ mlenyma i have not received mine.i have checked my cds account but nothing.i have checked the post box also but nothing.how did u get urs?

post.iko njiani wait
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Aguytrying
#46 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:10:04 PM
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I realise that KCB is owned 17% by national treasury and 7% by NSSF. Local institutional investors about 47% and international institutional investors about 24%.

My question is? Who runs this bank? how much is the government involvement at the highest levels of decision making? Who controls this bank? Bear in mind government and NSSF are the largest shareholders with the institutional investors holding small percentages but they are many.

Why does this model "seem" to be working while KQ for example it's not.
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VituVingiSana
#47 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:37:22 PM
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@Aguy - Getting the 47% to vote together might be a challenge PLUS at the AGM the votes PRESENT (including proxies) count. Absent votes do not.

Let's say 50% of the votes are present but GoK has 34% of the votes that are present. Nsst has 14%. Add the two and they have 48%. How do you beat 48%?

I hope someone has answers to your questions!
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enyands
#48 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 9:56:07 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@Aguy - Getting the 47% to vote together might be a challenge PLUS at the AGM the votes PRESENT (including proxies) count. Absent votes do not.

Let's say 50% of the votes are present but GoK has 34% of the votes that are present. Nsst has 14%. Add the two and they have 48%. How do you beat 48%?

I hope someone has answers to your questions!



it does make sense .there is no way ill stop my errands to go vote and yet I have less than 5k shares here
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Aguytrying
#49 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:20:27 PM
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enyands wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@Aguy - Getting the 47% to vote together might be a challenge PLUS at the AGM the votes PRESENT (including proxies) count. Absent votes do not.

Let's say 50% of the votes are present but GoK has 34% of the votes that are present. Nsst has 14%. Add the two and they have 48%. How do you beat 48%?

I hope someone has answers to your questions!



it does make sense .there is no way ill stop my errands to go vote and yet I have less than 5k shares here


You have shed enough light, thanks guys
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VituVingiSana
#50 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 10:21:02 AM
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Joshua Oigara plays down rise of KCB bad loans

http://www.nation.co.ke/...0/-/pswbv7/-/index.html

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