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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
mnandii
#81 Posted : Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:12:46 AM
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Negative social mood taking over..

Scandals happen all the time BUT when they happen during a period of negative social mood, they appear to be worse.

Police Tricks Were Worse Than Those Used To Rig An Election

Face To Face With Corruption
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mnandii
#82 Posted : Tuesday, July 29, 2014 8:38:36 AM
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The Stock Market Has Been Predicting Russian Crises Since 1857

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mnandii
#83 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:10:06 AM
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Negative social mood exacerbates tensions

New sanctions for Russia
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The latest round of sanctions is intended to tighten the screws on Russia by targeting broad sections of its economy and financial markets. So far, the U.S. and Europe have limited those targets to influential government officials—so-called phase two sanctions.

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US President Barack Obama has announced new economic sanctions against Russia, saying they will make Russia's "weak economy even weaker".


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mnandii
#84 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:14:12 AM
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Negative social mood is also associated with rise in epidemics. Think Ebola virus now.
Also remember that bad flu was worse at a time when the stock market was in a bear trend. (The worldwide measure for social mood is the US stock market.)
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mnandii
#85 Posted : Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:43:37 PM
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KES_USD
Thrusting out of a triangle. Acceleration towards 100 expected soon.



The triangle appears complete. Past 100 here we come. smile
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poundfoolish
#86 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:22:54 AM
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As always, i do follow this thread and the forex one silently..
and i must appreciate your persistent advice.

Apart from holding on to dollars (and trying to get more). where/how else can we profit? will banks benefit (we buy their shares?)

Any foreseeable timelines for this? In a month? 2 months?
hisah
#87 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:28:37 PM
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mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:


KES_USD
Thrusting out of a triangle. Acceleration towards 100 expected soon.



The triangle appears complete. Past 100 here we come. smile

That KES breakdown is really going to hurt Sad

KES will take it in the chin
The econ will take it in the chin
Equities will take it in the chin...

I have been bearish equities (esp bank stocks) against the crowd since Nov 2013.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mnandii
#88 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:10:09 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
As always, i do follow this thread and the forex one silently..
and i must appreciate your persistent advice.

Apart from holding on to dollars (and trying to get more). where/how else can we profit? will banks benefit (we buy their shares?)

Any foreseeable timelines for this? In a month? 2 months?

Hi @pound. Thanks.

Let me state though that I am a technical guy (using Elliott) and advice about about holding onto cash and any other information on depression I get from Prechter's book Conquer The Crash, Austrian Economics as well as the socionomics institute website www.socionomics.net

In a nutshell the stock market should drop tremendously within this year. This month (august) to October will be very key but in all 2014 is the start of the bear market that should bottom at about 2016. This insights come from Elliott Wave Analysis as well as Fibonacci time series. If you read Prechter's latest Elliott Theorist you will be amazed. You can access it from www.elliottwave.com by paying $1 for two weeks trial period.

For NSE, in my estimation, the index should move to about 5200-5300 before falling. By end of August the top should be in place, then the fall starts.

The KesUSD appears to have a long way to go. Past 120 as @hisah has always stated which seem supported by Elliott waves.

All in all, this year and next require alot of discernment in making investments esp financial ones e.g in buying shares etc.

If interest rates in Money Markets continue higher (as is expected) then you can buy the short term ones.

In a depression banks are usually hard hit. This is because of a crisis in confidence leading to bank runs. Be careful with a bank which is over-leveraged i.e too much loans and esp if NPL continue to rise.

Prechter says that if you deposit money in a bank, you have in effect 'loaned' the bank money. The bank is allowed to use the money to generate more money (profits) which is shared with you as interest on your deposit. If the bank cannot recover the money it has lent out then you have no claim!

There's alot more insights from Prechter and Austrian Economics.

You can go to youtube and search for mises.org for insightful videos.

Also free e-books: The Law by Fredrick Bastiat, Economics In One Lesson by Henry Hazzlitt etc etc.
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mnandii
#89 Posted : Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:16:20 PM
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hisah wrote:
mnandii wrote:
mnandii wrote:


KES_USD
Thrusting out of a triangle. Acceleration towards 100 expected soon.



The triangle appears complete. Past 100 here we come. smile

That KES breakdown is really going to hurt Sad

KES will take it in the chin
The econ will take it in the chin
Equities will take it in the chin...

I have been bearish equities (esp bank stocks) against the crowd since Nov 2013.

Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mnandii
#90 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 6:59:14 AM
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Depression: Their Cause And Cure by Marie N Rothbard

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Need a short monograph on Austrian business cycle theory? This is the one to get.

Murray Rothbard was the master of reducing complicated theories to their very essence while retaining theoretical rigor, and this essay is a case in point. It was written in 1969 and published in the form of a tiny book that achieved a huge circulation. It has not been in print since that time, but it is now back in this new release.

It is thrilling how Rothbard is able to present the theory in an easy-to-digest format.

Its continued relevance speaks to an aspect of the Austrian theory that other theories can't boast. It is a real theory that applies across time and place, and its persuasive power is not contingent on the particulars of any individual boom bust cycle.

You will not only learn from this 50-page book; it is the perfect item to pass on to others who are wondering about the economic crisis of 2008 and following.


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mnandii
#91 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 7:02:58 AM
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DJIA
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#92 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 7:18:14 AM
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So the Shilling is over-valued? Very interesting considering that it is about to lose more ground.
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Kenyan shilling is overvalued by 4.3pc, says CBK policy team man


BD link
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#93 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 11:17:40 AM
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mnandii wrote:
So the Shilling is over-valued? Very interesting considering that it is about to lose more ground.
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Kenyan shilling is overvalued by 4.3pc, says CBK policy team man


BD link

Quite telling where the insiders want the rate to be. With a strong USD, continuously supporting the shilling may prove a daunting task for CBK!They need a serious war chest for this, which they can only get from tourism sector(currently on HDU) and cash crop & horticulture exports, mainly!!The government has a lot to do in terms of fiscal policy!
@SufficientlyP
mnandii
#94 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 6:45:55 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
mnandii wrote:
So the Shilling is over-valued? Very interesting considering that it is about to lose more ground.
Quote:
Kenyan shilling is overvalued by 4.3pc, says CBK policy team man


BD link

Quite telling where the insiders want the rate to be. With a strong USD, continuously supporting the shilling may prove a daunting task for CBK!They need a serious war chest for this, which they can only get from tourism sector(currently on HDU) and cash crop & horticulture exports, mainly!!The government has a lot to do in terms of fiscal policy!

Yep. Financial muscle required. smile
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hisah
#95 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 7:23:54 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
mnandii wrote:
So the Shilling is over-valued? Very interesting considering that it is about to lose more ground.
Quote:
Kenyan shilling is overvalued by 4.3pc, says CBK policy team man


BD link

Quite telling where the insiders want the rate to be. With a strong USD, continuously supporting the shilling may prove a daunting task for CBK!They need a serious war chest for this, which they can only get from tourism sector(currently on HDU) and cash crop & horticulture exports, mainly!!The government has a lot to do in terms of fiscal policy!

Oh my... That's a green light that 90/- handle is going to give way Sad
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#96 Posted : Friday, August 01, 2014 7:30:30 PM
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For the econ report readers, I wonder how many read this IMF KE Nov 2013 report - http://tinyurl.com/pu87w22

Some highlights
pg 24 - BoP table item Income (net) 2016/17 estimates projected at a positive KES 144.2B
pg 24 - BoP table item Financial account private, KQ financing will dip to 106.2B in 2016/17 while energy financing is expected to reach 144.4B by then. So KQ is expected to become stable around 2016/17 while energy financing (power + oil) will continue fed with funds.

Pg 31 - Letter of intent contents

I didn't know that NSE demutualization was part of the IMF ECF (Extended credit facility) arrangement back in 2011 when KES was collapsing Think

VAT amendment was expected to spike inflation and the treasury officials expected it to fall back in early 2014. But we all know that was just another one of those... by IMF proposals. Now inflation is above CBK's target. How long will they wait till they hike CBR? And hike CBR in an econ that is facing a slump!? Pumping liquidity is the easiest way out of the slump, but that will add fuel to the inflation spike. The dilemma...d'oh! Brick wall
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mnandii
#97 Posted : Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:27:55 PM
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hisah wrote:
For the econ report readers, I wonder how many read this IMF KE Nov 2013 report - http://tinyurl.com/pu87w22

Some highlights
pg 24 - BoP table item Income (net) 2016/17 estimates projected at a positive KES 144.2B
pg 24 - BoP table item Financial account private, KQ financing will dip to 106.2B in 2016/17 while energy financing is expected to reach 144.4B by then. So KQ is expected to become stable around 2016/17 while energy financing (power + oil) will continue fed with funds.

Pg 31 - Letter of intent contents

I didn't know that NSE demutualization was part of the IMF ECF (Extended credit facility) arrangement back in 2011 when KES was collapsing Think

VAT amendment was expected to spike inflation and the treasury officials expected it to fall back in early 2014. But we all know that was just another one of those... by IMF proposals. Now inflation is above CBK's target. How long will they wait till they hike CBR? And hike CBR in an econ that is facing a slump!? Pumping liquidity is the easiest way out of the slump, but that will add fuel to the inflation spike. The dilemma...d'oh! Brick wall

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mnandii
#98 Posted : Saturday, August 02, 2014 12:29:44 PM
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DJIA was down 2.75% for the week, erasing the ENTIRE gain for 2014
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mnandii
#99 Posted : Sunday, August 03, 2014 12:08:22 PM
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It has been several months since I boldly forecast smile that the NSE 20 Share Index would fall below 2360.01 (March 2009 low). It behoves me to revisit the issue and give an update.

As shown by the chart above, the Index has been going sideways in a pattern that is best interpreted as a triangle. I believe the triangle ended at 4863.87 points and is now rallying in the final portion of Wave C.

I forecast that the NSE 20 should rally to a top btw 5340 and 5440 points ....then fall.

A storm is coming Sad

Detailed analytics in next post.

NB: For the triangle :
Wave [a] is at 4561.74
Wave [b] is at 5137.21
Wave [c] is at 4764.11
Wave [d] is at 4925.86
Wave [e] is at 4863.87
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mnandii
#100 Posted : Sunday, August 03, 2014 12:55:32 PM
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DETAILED ANALYTICS

Working Long Term Chart of the NSE 20 Share Index:


Wave B is from March 2009 and subdivides into Waves [a], ..[ .b] and [c].

The target top is calculated as follows:
1. Length of wave A = (6161.46 - 2360.01) = 3801.45 points
0.786 X wave A = wave B
Therefore: 0.786 X 3801.45 = 2987.94 points
Add 2987.94 points to Wave A bottom to get the end of wave B:

2987.94 + 2360.01 = 5347.95

2. The Widest Height of the triangle added to wave [ .e] bottom gives a target for final wave.
Wave [ .b], in our case, is the widest (tallest) and therefore:
(5137.21 - 4561.74) = 575.47 points

Wave [e] bottom at 4863.87 + 575.47 = 5439.34

3.

Wave [a] length = ( 4701.15 - 2360.01 ) = 2341.14
For Wave [a] = Wave [c] ( a common wave relationship) then we add the length of wave [ .a] to bottom of wave [ .b] to get the top of wave [c] (and also wave B).

Therefore: (2341.14 + 3070.36) = 5411.5

AND THUS THE TARGETED RANGE >> 5340 - 5440 POINTS FOR NSE 20 SHARE INDEX.
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