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Robinhood
#41 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 4:57:47 PM
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One of the most cowardly things any man can do is to hit a woman. Guys who love doing this usually have no cojones to face off with a fellow jamaa and have to hit a weaker person to feel better about their inadequacies. And I am not talking of a Shebesh Kidero thing here. This is easily one of the most disgusting things that men do. What I find disgusting to the core is the women who vumulia this crap for ages in the name of love, kids, watu watasema nini, ooh wazazi. What crap!!

You can get the guy to take care of his children without living with him. Just ask Mr. Marende. You do not have to take this for the sake of the children. I assure you they are traumatized when they see their father beating their mother.

I hope you have taken @mathenge's advise have moved out.
Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
Muriel
#42 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 5:01:12 PM
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faa wrote:
I wouldn't advise you to divorce.Marriage is permanent.

however,if Nelson mandela divorced his wife and lived to be a great man,who are you to suffer.

Do the necessary but all in all it's your life.


Reasonable.

I am wondering what about rehabilitating the man? Aren't men going to take up that challenge? What are the men in the man's life standing for in regards to this situation? These are also allies my brother had mentioned earlier.

I believe men also need support, training, advice to be better people. They are usually too easily overlooked. Sociologists have tried to explain such problems as starting with the boy-child.

Just my thoughts.
aemathenge
#43 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 5:30:10 PM
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Muriel wrote:
Reasonable.

I am wondering what about rehabilitating the man? Aren't men going to take up that challenge? What are the men in the man's life standing for in regards to this situation? These are also allies my brother had mentioned earlier.

I believe men also need support, training, advice to be better people. They are usually too easily overlooked. Sociologists have tried to explain such problems as starting with the boy-child.

Just my thoughts.

As usual, you are ever so very right.

However:


Serial women batterers (sp) are in my book terrorists and need no negotiating with.

In this case, I strongly feel that this "man" needs a bullet in the knee to come to his senses and therefore seek help from relevant professionals.

The best bullet in this situation is for him to find the house empty. No furniture, no cutlery, no home theater, no curtains, no cockroaches. Best of all, no "woman" to batter, no children to lord over.
jguru
#44 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 5:34:41 PM
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Fact: 99% of women in an abusive relationship will never leave. It has never made sense to me.

After all the advice and telling her to run, she still won't leave the man.
Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
aemathenge
#45 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 5:35:34 PM
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It is now 1735 hours East African Time. It is my wish and prayer that you swept the house clean and moved out.

In the event that you have not, then you are worse than he is and therefore may the Good Lord have mercy on your miserable soul.
CLK
#46 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 5:37:16 PM
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Here are you options:-
1.Do nothing
2.Leave by 1700hrs as suggested, alone or with your kids
3.Sit down, take inventory, figure out where the rain started beating you. Try counseling as MC suggested above. I will suggest you go this route only and only if he is willing to go for counseling too otherwise utakuwa unapaka mbuzi rangi.
4.Sit down, plan an exit strategy. Your plan is to leave in the next 3-6 months, by now you know the things that provoke him to hit you or fight with you, try as much as possible to avoid them, this requires a lot of pretense, you see things but do not complain about them, avoid sex without protection if you can. the whole idea is to buy yourself time to plan your exit, where you will go, do you want to change schools for the kids etc. etc. Also this is the time to start healing yourself and it will help when you start living alone, this is not going to be easy but if you prepare yourself, financially, emotionally, and psychologically it might be bearable, otherwise you will walk out and walk right back, something i detest.

5. If you have considered 4 above and are financially in a position to support your kids, get yourself a house somewhere else, scout for schools for your kids for next term possibly, walk and never look back.

6. If you have considered 4 above but are not financially in a position to fend for the kids but can afford to rent a house somewhere, move out with the kids and haul the bugger to court for upkeep.

7. If 6 above is not possible, go back to your parents home with your kids and take the bugger to court for upkeep.

All the best.
murchr
#47 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 5:50:36 PM
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So what have you decided?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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FRM2011
#48 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 5:50:52 PM
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@lady em, I can't pretend to be an expert here let me share with you a real life experience.

A while back, the performance of my best sales staff started deteriorating. I called the guy and he told me a story almost similar to yours. The wife was taking him through hell. They were paying rent @60K, taking their kid to an international school and the wife was using the family car while the guy took a mat. And SHE was the man in the house.

I gave him my two cents marriage counselling advice. My boss called me regarding the guys performance and when I explained what the guy was going through, she told me something I will never forget. All her kids are married BTW. She told me marriage issues can only he sorted by the two parties. The pastor's job is to officiate the wedding, the best man's job is to panga logistics on the wedding day.

You can get so much (mis)advice here on wazua but ultimately, its your call.

My sales guy was later fired. The reason on his dismissal letter was pecuniary embarrassment when he started borrowing money from some of our biggest clients. I think he got fired because he refused to wear the trouser at home.
YoungMulla
#49 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:21:59 PM
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Madam, leave. There is NOTHING there for you.

Listen to the advice given here, especially CLK's above which is detailed. Plan your exit and leave. He'll beg you to come back but DONT.
Before I die - i will touch the sky!!
CLK
#50 Posted : Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:17:24 PM
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jguru wrote:
Fact: 99% of women in an abusive relationship will never leave. It has never made sense to me.

After all the advice and telling her to run, she still won't leave the man.


Requires a lot of strength and courage than you can ever imagine, figure this, you have been married for like 10 years, then the drama starts.

Involves too many things and either way you lose whether you decide to stay or decide to leave.

I always tell my male friends, if they must cheat, tafadhali heshimu mama, make sure she doesn't know, otherwise inakuwa madharau.
And i advice my female friends not to dig, seek and you will find, unless you are willing to act on what you find.
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