I for one do not blame Tanzanians of being suspicious of Kenyans.

If you talk to Tanzanians you will find that one of their fears is that they do not want Kenya's vices exported to Tanzania.

1. According to them, Kenyans are very tribal oriented. They do not want that tribal hate exported to Tanzania where everyone lives in harmony and nobody cares whether the Prezzi is a Musukuma or Ngoni or Hehe or even Zanzibari. The first prezzi (Nyerere) was from an obscure ethnic group that has less than 100,000 people. The second was Zanzibari. Tanzanians do not care.
Tanzanians genuinely get along. There is no mawinder type tribal baiting. They do not want Kenyans flooding the place and poisoning the fresh waters of inter-ethnic harmony that exists there.
Because they do not care about a politcians ethnicity, they have the potential to build a better government by voting on issues and not tribalism.

2. They do not want Kenya's corruption exported to Tanzania. If you look at the issue of a common Visa, you know that corruption will be very endemic in this process. You will end up with criminal and terroristic elements such as Al Shabab getting Visas in Nairobi through bribery then gaining free entry into TZ to visit mayhem on Tanzanians.

3. Then there is the criminal element. Again Tanzania is traditionally very safe. Carjackings, muggings, burglaries etc of the type that are commonplace in Kenya are traditionally rare in TZ and when they happen, they are often committed by Kenyan criminals. With all this you understand why Tanzanians are leery of being invaded by Kenyans.

I was at a party with many Tanzanians and I told them that Kenyans bring technical expertise and know how to Tanzania and one of them told they they would sooner not have anyone from Kenya go there. In fact according to them, Kenyans can keep their technical expertise and investment.

4. One other thing they told me is that because Kenya is so dysfunctional and tribal, they think that Tanzania's GDP will surpass Kenya during our lifetimes, given that TZ is growing at a much faster rate and has recently discovered vast amounts of minerals. According to them, Kenya now wants a piece of Tanzania because they (Kenyans) are afraid that Tanzania is passing Kenya in terms of GDP.

There is an element of truth to all this but bitter and sour Kenyans would rather point a finger at Wa Bongo instead of examining our issues

on that issue, we differ. Do a little more study... Corruption is not anything new to your pure lady. And that i got from a Tanzanian...

Well, if they are that perfect and they think they are that good, then why want to join corrupt, inept, dysfunctional, tribal, criminal infested countries like Kenya? we are happy to move on and let them sit on their high chair and mesmerize about their purity.

I for one do not blame Tanzanians of being suspicious of Kenyans.

If you talk to Tanzanians you will find that one of their fears is that they do not want Kenya's vices exported to Tanzania.

1. According to them, Kenyans are very tribal oriented. They do not want that tribal hate exported to Tanzania where everyone lives in harmony and nobody cares whether the Prezzi is a Musukuma or Ngoni or Hehe or even Zanzibari. The first prezzi (Nyerere) was from an obscure ethnic group that has less than 100,000 people. The second was Zanzibari. Tanzanians do not care.
Tanzanians genuinely get along. There is no mawinder type tribal baiting. They do not want Kenyans flooding the place and poisoning the fresh waters of inter-ethnic harmony that exists there.
Because they do not care about a politcians ethnicity, they have the potential to build a better government by voting on issues and not tribalism.

It is true TZnians think Kenyans are very tribal, but the question is how will Kenyans tribalism back home influence or play a part in TZnians social and political progression??? tribalism is not a physical entity that can be transported and damped. To me the TZnians claims that since Kenyans are tribal will make TZ tribal is fallicious and utter nonesense!!

2. They do not want Kenya's corruption exported to Tanzania. If you look at the issue of a common Visa, you know that corruption will be very endemic in this process. You will end up with criminal and terroristic elements such as Al Shabab getting Visas in Nairobi through bribery then gaining free entry into TZ to visit mayhem on Tanzanians.

TZ is very corrupt and especially when they are dealing with a foreigner...further more it originates from them not foreigners...Do not preach to us how clean the TZ is..corruption is corruption whether it is carried out locally or internationally.

3. Then there is the criminal element. Again Tanzania is traditionally very safe. Carjackings, muggings, burglaries etc of the type that are commonplace in Kenya are traditionally rare in TZ and when they happen, they are often committed by Kenyan criminals. With all this you understand why Tanzanians are leery of being invaded by Kenyans.

Jeez!!!criminal activities in TZ are rare? my foot!!!We also have the locals in TZ do it albeit in smaller scale than Kenya!

I was at a party with many Tanzanians and I told them that Kenyans bring technical expertise and know how to Tanzania and one of them told they they would sooner not have anyone from Kenya go there. In fact according to them, Kenyans can keep their technical expertise and investment.

This is very foolish of TZnians...A couple of years back Botswana had a similar mentality and the then President Festus Mogae looked further ahead and saw a need for the unavailable expertise and technology which could only be sourced from outside the borders if Botswana had to progress...The locals were against this, but the government went ahead...This got Botswana to where it is now...

TZ chased away Rwandese the other day and there is also a simmering discontent between them and Malawi...What do these events tell you about TZ...they are an island unto themselves and they do not need anyone else!!

4. One other thing they told me is that because Kenya is so dysfunctional and tribal, they think that Tanzania's GDP will surpass Kenya during our lifetimes, given that TZ is growing at a much faster rate and has recently discovered vast amounts of minerals. According to them, Kenya now wants a piece of Tanzania because they (Kenyans) are afraid that Tanzania is passing Kenya in terms of GDP.

Yea!!Not when South Africa is screwing them right left and centre through the biased SADC and SACU...Kenyas economy is more of an open type which accommodates the modern day capitalsm and is mostly driven by the local people and other investors...TZ is still reeling from the effects of socialism and that is why the locals are still poor with very little disposable incomes...also you do not progress economically when you have a lazy population...never!!!

A simple example...compare Namanga in Kenyan side and TZnian side...or Tuduma in TZnian side and Nakonde in Zambian side...It will instantly tell you who the actual movers of cross border businesses are...

@Alba,

You are done pointing to us what ills TZnians fear about Kenya and it's people.That done and assuming we believe you,then you can go ahead and tell us what it is they fear about Malawians,Rwandese and Ugandans.Beyond this, i find your arguments wanting as you seem hell-bent on skirting and dancing around one pertinent question.WHO IS THE COMPLAINANT here amongst the 5 EAC members?.Don't worry but even if i do not know the answer,i am certain that Rwanda is happy,so is Kenya and Uganda and well,the Burundians haven't uttered a word on the coalition of the willing.