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AccessKenya takeover offer at 14/=
jerry
#81 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:13:36 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
The best case scenario is for ak to remain at the nse to conform with the 20% local shareholding rule,then we sell at the peak of new optimism at 30bob.

Agreed. Is it 20 or 25%? Why are they keen on de-listing? To eat the cake without a lot of public scrutiny?
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mlennyma
#82 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:27:11 AM
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Some proxy kenyans may be eyeing the local share holding.
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VituVingiSana
#83 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:22:29 PM
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jerry wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
The best case scenario is for ak to remain at the nse to conform with the 20% local shareholding rule,then we sell at the peak of new optimism at 30bob.

Agreed. Is it 20 or 25%? Why are they keen on de-listing? To eat the cake without a lot of public scrutiny?
Kwani? What's the problem? It's their choice. You can put together a competing bid for 75% & let AK remain listed. Please do so ASAP. Pray Pray Pray
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
jerry
#84 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:40:02 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
jerry wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
The best case scenario is for ak to remain at the nse to conform with the 20% local shareholding rule,then we sell at the peak of new optimism at 30bob.

Agreed. Is it 20 or 25%? Why are they keen on de-listing? To eat the cake without a lot of public scrutiny?
Kwani? What's the problem? It's their choice. You can put together a competing bid for 75% & let AK remain listed. Please do so ASAP. Pray Pray Pray

Safcom will be lonely in NSE if AK is de-listed. On a more serious note, taking 14/= could be profitable now but long term gains are more if 14/= is avoided. How much do the Somens hold?
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
VituVingiSana
#85 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 2:47:21 PM
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jerry wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
jerry wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
The best case scenario is for ak to remain at the nse to conform with the 20% local shareholding rule,then we sell at the peak of new optimism at 30bob.

Agreed. Is it 20 or 25%? Why are they keen on de-listing? To eat the cake without a lot of public scrutiny?
Kwani? What's the problem? It's their choice. You can put together a competing bid for 75% & let AK remain listed. Please do so ASAP. Pray Pray Pray

Safcom will be lonely in NSE if AK is de-listed. On a more serious note, taking 14/= could be profitable now but long term gains are more if 14/= is avoided. How much do the Somens hold?
Please put in a higher bid for AK... Pray Pray Pray
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
selah
#86 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 3:03:58 PM
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I would love not to sell My shares once they delist, apparently Dimension data Is a subsidiary of NTT the largest telecommunications company in the world in terms of revenue,it is headquartered in Tokyo, Japan.

I also think Safaricom and other Telcos shld be wary of this buyout.I foresee one epic battle in the coming years if the parent company start seriously investing in this market.

In a nutshell The parent company of Dimension data is a monolith capable of taking Airtel and safaricom head on.
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#87 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 3:08:32 PM
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selah wrote:
I would love not to sell My shares once they delist, apparently Dimension data Is a subsidiary of NTT the largest telecommunications company in the world in terms of revenue,it is headquartered in Tokyo, Japan.

I also think Safaricom and other Telcos shld be wary of this buyout.I foresee one epic battle in the coming years if the parent company start seriously investing in this market.

In a nutshell The parent company of Dimension data is a monolith capable of taking Airtel and safaricom head on.
DD/NTT should buy Airtel or Yu & take on Safaricom & Orange!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#88 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 3:41:46 PM
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@Selah NTT is not the largest telecommunications company in the world.It has been dwarfed by several other companies as follows in terms of revenue in 2012 in dollar terms;
AT&T---127.34 B
NTT---43 B
Verizon---110.875B
France telecom--59 B
Telefonica---80B
Deutshe Telekom--76 B
America Movil--59.3 B
China Mobile--86.5 B

In summary NTT is the largest in Japan in terms of revenue and not in the world
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Jamani
#89 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 6:16:58 PM
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Delay..... Read

The notice by Comesa’s Competition Commission generated confusion on whether Kenyan firms must seek double approval where cross-border deals are involved.

Even though Attorney General Githu Muigai said CAK has the final and only say on approval of mergers and deals within Kenya, corporate lawyers afraid of running afoul of Comesa’s authority have been seeking approval from the two bodies.

“The AG’s directive or opinion must be seen within its short-term context, noting also its political angle in questioning Comesa for not consulting before publishing its requirements,” said Mugambi Nandi, a partner at law firm KN Associates LLP.

Mr Nandi said the bigger picture is the pending complexity of having three regulators scrutinising deals. The Comesa Competition Commission charges $500,000 (Sh42 million) to approve a deal and parties can wait up to 120 days to get approval.

CAK does not charge a fee but has a waiting period of up to 60 days. With the EAC Competition Authority, it will take 45 days to get approval. This bureaucracy could make reduce the attractiveness of East Africa as an investment destinatio.

http://www.businessdaily...4/-/rdynki/-/index.html
mlennyma
#90 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:19:41 AM
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The transaction advisers kestrel capital will give advice on the offer and posibly by end of june their verdict will rest on shareholders...some shareholders are pushing for more arguing the bought above 20s
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mlennyma
#91 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:26:35 AM
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Trading is risk taking,this idea of suspending the counter kills the trading spirit.
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dunkang
#92 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:30:37 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
...some shareholders are pushing for more arguing the bought above 20s

@QW aka Techboy
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mlennyma
#93 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:33:17 AM
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Tulikosana jana wazee wakitaka bei poa..http://www.thepeople.co.ke/2112/shareholders-oppose-accesskenya-price/
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mlennyma
#94 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:35:29 AM
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http://www.thepeople.co....ppose-accesskenya-price/
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Angelica _ann
#95 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:52:46 AM
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And the cat and mouse chase starts and the waiting continues ...............
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Wendz
#96 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:39:20 PM
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I've healed my wounds caused by this share and learnt my lessons.... A case study of "How NOT to Invest in Equity market 101". I am happy to watch from a distance.
dunkang
#97 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:52:48 PM
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Wendz wrote:
I've healed my wounds caused by this share and learnt my lessons.... A case study of "How NOT to Invest in Equity market 101". I am happy to watch from a distance.

And the lesson was?

OK, let me guess. Never invest in family-run firms? Not that one. How about, Never touch small cap firms, their share prices are easilly manipulated by whoever has the 'gold'.
Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

selah
#98 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:19:56 PM
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Wendz wrote:
I've healed my wounds caused by this share and learnt my lessons.... A case study of "How NOT to Invest in Equity market 101". I am happy to watch from a distance.


Hehehe I learnt the same lesson too but watching from a distance did not cross my mind....I decided to be the guy who ripped me from this investment (Buying low and selling High)and never to be too greedy.
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
hisah
#99 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 12:41:53 AM
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An AK shareholder pissed off with the trading suspension - http://www.businessdaily...2/-/lyppev/-/index.html

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
VituVingiSana
#100 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2013 1:06:18 AM
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