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tycho wrote:ChessMaster wrote:mkeiyd wrote:To answer the topic's question?
Ujinga ni mwingi Afrika nyeusi. No.We just value different things. @tycho - One is a race the other is a place you're born. Black is a race, and Africa is where one is born? And what then is the West? The West is what Africa blames for its shortcomings. Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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But there exists hope,
if we accept to learn,we will surmount the odds.
Learn and vote like one who has a mind,drive,invest,socialize,relate,trade etc in the same way.
Simply, watu watumie akili.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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mkeiyd wrote:ChessMaster wrote:
Again value systems are developed through cultural perspectives. Its not that we aren't intelligent,its that we don't value intelligence. We have a 'mwakenya' culture of doing things and this goes beyond the classroom.
@Chessmaster, That "mwakenya" or "mwafrica" way of doing things makes us lag behind and always have systems that don't work. A project would be running well with non-blacks in charge. Wait for it to land in the hands of mtu mweusi,suddenly, nothing seems to work. Then the blame game begins. Read some of other comments above, people blaming mzungu for our woes,for our poor leadership etc. Those leaders are representative of us. They don't think. We don't think big. From governance to driving to our politics,no one seems to be thinking. Ujinga na uzembe wa akili,that's why Africa is where it is. The mzungu can only use fools those who are blaming mzungu should realize that. Most Africans aren't raised to question,we are raised to respect authority.Its deeply embedded in our school system. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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The common denominator is: Poor leadership. Well managed African countries are flourishing...and who said Africa is a country?
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Whereas a mzungu suspect wouldn't even dream of public office we have a mweusi suspect who is about to be elected as president freely and fairly!! Talked about a warped mindset!  Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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ChessMaster wrote:mkeiyd wrote:ChessMaster wrote:
Again value systems are developed through cultural perspectives. Its not that we aren't intelligent,its that we don't value intelligence. We have a 'mwakenya' culture of doing things and this goes beyond the classroom.
@Chessmaster, That "mwakenya" or "mwafrica" way of doing things makes us lag behind and always have systems that don't work. A project would be running well with non-blacks in charge. Wait for it to land in the hands of mtu mweusi,suddenly, nothing seems to work. Then the blame game begins. Read some of other comments above, people blaming mzungu for our woes,for our poor leadership etc. Those leaders are representative of us. They don't think. We don't think big. From governance to driving to our politics,no one seems to be thinking. Ujinga na uzembe wa akili,that's why Africa is where it is. The mzungu can only use fools those who are blaming mzungu should realize that. Most Africans aren't raised to question,we are raised to respect authority.Its deeply embedded in our school system. @chessmaster. A German friend of mine rised the exact same sentiments on why Kenya is poor once during our discussion. He told me in their country, the citizens dont let their Government easily when they feel opressed. As Iron Sharpens Iron, So one Man Sharpens Another.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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the deal wrote:The common denominator is: Poor leadership. Well managed African countries are flourishing...and who said Africa is a country? Is leadership about the leader or the lead? (Courtesy of @Impunity).
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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a4architect.com wrote:ChessMaster wrote:mkeiyd wrote:ChessMaster wrote:
Again value systems are developed through cultural perspectives. Its not that we aren't intelligent,its that we don't value intelligence. We have a 'mwakenya' culture of doing things and this goes beyond the classroom.
@Chessmaster, That "mwakenya" or "mwafrica" way of doing things makes us lag behind and always have systems that don't work. A project would be running well with non-blacks in charge. Wait for it to land in the hands of mtu mweusi,suddenly, nothing seems to work. Then the blame game begins. Read some of other comments above, people blaming mzungu for our woes,for our poor leadership etc. Those leaders are representative of us. They don't think. We don't think big. From governance to driving to our politics,no one seems to be thinking. Ujinga na uzembe wa akili,that's why Africa is where it is. The mzungu can only use fools those who are blaming mzungu should realize that. Most Africans aren't raised to question,we are raised to respect authority.Its deeply embedded in our school system. @chessmaster. A German friend of mine rised the exact same sentiments on why Kenya is poor once during our discussion. He told me in their country, the citizens dont let their Government easily when they feel opressed. How is culture related to ideas, especially political ideas?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/23/2009 Posts: 1,626
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@guru267 - It's not a warped mindset.Its fair play.We want what the leaders have and I believe majority of people would do what they do given the opportunity.But because that is in us,it becomes hard to remove the leaders when we ourselves do the same. @a4architect - Very true. Even how they air their differences is different from how we do. They follow or attempt to follow protocols and laws while us we can break them while trying to fight for them. Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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I'm reminded of Prof. Ali Mazrui. He has written this book about world culture and black experience.
Could the question be, why is the black experience one of poverty, and inferiority, and pain?
And if this is the question, then we can ask, what determines experience?
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