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UAP Group set to enter OTC shares market
Mart_Consult
#81 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2015 7:15:42 PM
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Old Mutual set to buy an additional 37% from PE funds exiting UAP...Walmart was to Buffett what UAP is to me ...*sobs remembering the opportunity*

Is a buy-out in the offing? Are you ready for the same...having priced your shares accordingly? i doubt Muguiyi/Kiarie will sell-out though...

Seems Old Mutual is applying a moderately aggressive acquistion strategy in Africa...Safaricom (minority investment via Stock Market) Faulu, UAP, Nedbank, Old Mutual SA etc etc...what's next
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#82 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2015 7:45:21 PM
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Mart_Consult wrote:
Old Mutual set to buy an additional 37% from PE funds exiting UAP...Walmart was to Buffett what UAP is to me ...*sobs remembering the opportunity*

Is a buy-out in the offing? Are you ready for the same...having priced your shares accordingly? i doubt Muguiyi/Kiarie will sell-out though...

Seems Old Mutual is applying a moderately aggressive acquistion strategy in Africa...Safaricom (minority investment via Stock Market) Faulu, UAP, Nedbank, Old Mutual SA etc etc...what's next


A new Kenyan CEO definitely translates into higher focus on Kenya!
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BGL
#83 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2015 10:09:06 PM
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Old Mutual Plc (OML), which earmarked 4.3 billion rand ($374 million) for acquisitions in Africa, increased its stake in Kenya’s UAP Holdings Ltd., meaning that the insurer has now spent more than half of that war chest.

Old Mutual, which is expanding in Africa to profit from the continent’s fastest-growing economies, will now hold 60.7 percent of UAP after purchasing a further 37.3 percent stake for $155.5 million in cash, the London-based insurer said in a statement Monday. The transaction takes its investment in UAP this month to $253 million.

“The majority stake we have secured in UAP, combined with the existing Old Mutual businesses in Kenya, will provide the Group with the scale and product breadth to capitalize on the significant growth expected in the region.”

In Kenya, East Africa’s largest economy, UAP has the third-biggest property and casualty market share, the second-ranked health insurance business, a large property investment portfolio and a fast-growing life insurance business, Old Mutual said. UAP also has operations in Uganda, Rwanda, Tanzania, South Sudan and the Democratic Republic of Congo. This deal follows Old Mutual’s acquisition of microfinance company Faulu Kenya DTM Ltd.
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#84 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2015 10:12:35 PM
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#85 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2015 10:35:18 PM
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At a price of approximately 180bob per share, that is a cool 200% gain in two years for some of us who bought via private placement.
Good to hear the plans for listing are on track| but what will be the listed entity? Old mutual or UAP.
This year i must attend the AGM, it is vital to ask questions and get to know where we are headed to.
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Ericsson
#86 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2015 11:03:28 PM
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@BGL there will be no listing of UAP this year.
Who will be reducing their stake now that Old Mutual has acquired the stake held by the private equity.
I doubt Old Mutual would be willing to reduce the stake they hold in the company.
Old Mutual will now merger Old Mutual life with UAP insurance group so that the various insurance business,asset management and stock brokerage are all held under one domain.
That will be the next step of realignment.
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Ericsson
#87 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2015 11:19:44 PM
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In all this news and realignments I give credit to insurance group.They have come from far and overtaken giants to become third position and now heading towards second position in terms of the gross written premiums
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BGL
#88 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2015 11:36:38 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
@BGL there will be no listing of UAP this year.
Who will be reducing their stake now that Old Mutual has acquired the stake held by the private equity.
I doubt Old Mutual would be willing to reduce the stake they hold in the company.
Old Mutual will now merger Old Mutual life with UAP insurance group so that the various insurance business,asset management and stock brokerage are all held under one domain.
That will be the next step of realignment.


My brother, it will be listing by introduction not IPO. All the 211.4 million shares will be brought to the market and some people will buy (including old mutual) and others will sell to the bidders in the open market called NSE.

Lets wait for the AGM.
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kryptonite
#89 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:10:27 AM
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BGL wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@BGL there will be no listing of UAP this year.
Who will be reducing their stake now that Old Mutual has acquired the stake held by the private equity.
I doubt Old Mutual would be willing to reduce the stake they hold in the company.
Old Mutual will now merger Old Mutual life with UAP insurance group so that the various insurance business,asset management and stock brokerage are all held under one domain.
That will be the next step of realignment.


My brother, it will be listing by introduction not IPO. All the 211.4 million shares will be brought to the market and some people will buy (including old mutual) and others will sell to the bidders in the open market called NSE.

Lets wait for the AGM.



"Mr Wanjui said UAP would proceed with earlier plans to list on the Nairobi Securities Exchange despite Old Mutual’s acquisition of a majority stake.

“Nothing changes with this transaction. We are still keen on listing,” he said, adding that the company would try to meet the target of joining the Nairobi bourse later this year. UAP is currently trading on the over-the-counter (OTC) market at Sh140."

RINK: Old Mutual raises stake in UAP
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#90 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:10:38 AM
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BGL wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
@BGL there will be no listing of UAP this year.
Who will be reducing their stake now that Old Mutual has acquired the stake held by the private equity.
I doubt Old Mutual would be willing to reduce the stake they hold in the company.
Old Mutual will now merger Old Mutual life with UAP insurance group so that the various insurance business,asset management and stock brokerage are all held under one domain.
That will be the next step of realignment.


My brother, it will be listing by introduction not IPO. All the 211.4 million shares will be brought to the market and some people will buy (including old mutual) and others will sell to the bidders in the open market called NSE.

Lets wait for the AGM.

or we could have something similar to City Trust I&M deal. All ears now on OML and not UAP.
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Ericsson
#91 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:14:50 AM
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Key word that Wanjui said is that they will try to meet the target.That just tells it all.
In the listing which of the remaining partners would agree to reduce their stake.
One of the requirements of listing is that a quarter of the stake be put up for sale.
For the case of I&M it was the private equity partners reducing their stake.
For UAP Old Mutual nor Joe Wanjui will be keen to reduce their stake.
This year Old Mutual would be doing re-alignment so in my own view listing this year is a mirage.
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Sober
#92 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:59:25 AM
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Okay, i see Old Mutual is buying 37.3% of UAP’s existing share capital bringing their stake to 60.7%
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#93 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:00:27 PM
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friends those of us small investors with about 32,270 shares what is the way foward,read the advert in the media and got no headways
mthaka
#94 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:02:28 PM
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friends those of us small investors with about 32,270 shares what is the way forward,read the advert in the media and got no headways
jerry
#95 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:41:12 PM
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mthaka wrote:
friends those of us small investors with about 32,270 shares what is the way foward,read the advert in the media and got no headways

How many small investors do we have in UAP?
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BGL
#96 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:15:13 PM
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One of the clauses of the sale agreement says that

'On completion of the purchase from the PE Investors, UAPHL will retain its diverse and loyal Kenyan shareholder base of nearly one thousand persons, and will be able to continue on its path to its intended eventual listing of its shares on the NSE. Dr Joseph Wanjui, on behalf of Bawan Limited, and Mr James Muguiyi who collectively hold 26.43% of the issued share capital of UAPHL have confirmed to OMH that they will remain as shareholders and directors of UAPHL.'
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BGL
#97 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 7:05:07 PM
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jerry wrote:
mthaka wrote:
friends those of us small investors with about 32,270 shares what is the way foward,read the advert in the media and got no headways

How many small investors do we have in UAP?


953

<100,000 shares: 910 shareholders (2.58%)
100,001 - 1,000,000: 29 shareholders (5.46%)
>1,000,000 : 14 shareholders (92%)

So, the 910 of us can be swallowed PAP at the correct price.
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MaichBlack
#98 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:20:47 PM
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BGL wrote:
jerry wrote:
mthaka wrote:
friends those of us small investors with about 32,270 shares what is the way foward,read the advert in the media and got no headways

How many small investors do we have in UAP?


953

<100,000 shares: 910 shareholders (2.58%)
100,001 - 1,000,000: 29 shareholders (5.46%)
>1,000,000 : 14 shareholders (92%)

So, the 910 of us can be swallowed PAP at the correct price.

If this thing ever lists, the1000 of you (along with rest of the crew) will make extremely good money!!!

Supply will be extremely constrained! Demand definitely will be there! But where will supply come from? The 1000 of you should pray that this thing lists!
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#99 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:03:56 PM
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At least one third of the shares in an insurance company must be owned by Kenyan citizens. So there is a limit as to what Old Mutual can acquire.
Ericsson
#100 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:21:57 PM
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The company is over valued by a very big margin.CIC which is doing better than them is at a margin of 30% lower in market cap than them.
Old Mutual paid a very high price for the company but maybe it was to woo the sellers to sell to them
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