Seeing that this is a matter of public interest, can anyone who receives it just upload it to one of the free file sharing websites?

@mkonomtupu, are u seriously telling me that there are banks that give out loans on letters of allotment?

If this is true, this is very serious?

I have little or no remorse for people who go buy land for speculative purposes as is the case with most Kenyans. Buy land in syokimau and wait for it to appreciate is as good as a pyramid scheme.

but I'm finding it very hard to believe that everyone in that area was silly enough to buy land in an area when they knew it was illegal. That is not logical.

The only logical conclusion is that they were hoodwinked by everyone from gov't, municipal offices, lands officials and even their own lawyers. That my friend is a dangerous recipe which begins the downward spiral of property prices in Kenya.

Who wants to buy my plot in Syokimau?

As far as I know, these plots DID'NT have genuine Titles at all!!

All the demolished house owners that were interviewed by media houses only spoke of approvals by Mavoko and provision of power by KPLC.

@JKmwatha&Others

do you have any proof of Title docs for any of the plots in question.

@Mainat

Spot on - if any one has a genuine Title issued from Ardhi, and/or genuine search certficate stamped by Lands registra they have a good case against the Govt for compesation.


Having said that, I still believe the Govt had an obligation to actively inform the public against buying/encroaching into this land.
Waiting as they did is in itself a form of abbetting - guilty of conspiracy of silence - in the court of public opinion.

@GGK..I would also like to see the report..sanity23@gmail.com

I hope this the web involved on these shoddy deals; lawyers, folks in ardhi house, city planners and anyone else will see a day in court. Justice for all. It's funny how human rights activists are no where to be found.

Self help groups that grab peoples land and brokers. For these lands, the previous owners are normally organizations where even the employees themselves play a role in abating the grabbing. Ask me about NSSF land that was being grabbed. Some of it was being done by employees fronted by individuals or groups.

This explains how the houses were being built on KAA land under their own watch a few metres away.

You know all the pple that had their houses demolished? Pay KAA for what? that is such middle class 'as long as it doesnt affect me' mentality. Please speak on facts only as some had titles, a bank will not give you a loan with a letter of allotment.
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I actually had my lawyer as part of due diligence to peruse the court file for that case coming up tomorrow so i know this for a fact.

Syokimau/Mavoko is a tricky area even if the seller has a certificate of title from Mavoko you have to check with the nairobi registry to see if another does not exist already

That database is long overdue. We should blacklist rogue agents and also the no go zone areas.

How does the law work, assuming the owners were innocent victims of fraud. My question is that they must have had some form of official govt document to even get approval to construct etc.

The fact that KAA watched them construct those houses to me is proof enough that their rights to the land parcels were genuine. Any progressive judge who understands the spirit of the law should make KAA/gava to compensate them fully, for the.

Na hao wezi should be arrested, employees of KAA and the people they worked in cahoots with.

My advise to anybody whose proerty has been lost through gava's incompetence, just get yourself a good lawyer, sue and be patient.

From a property seller's point of view, I normally advice for due diligence (official and non-official). Official means a search that gives info on how clean the title is (no emcumbrances, restrictions and cautions). Non official which is equally important involves establishing the history of the land and in most cases talking to residents who suprisingly have very good info. I personally had a plot in syokimau but in the clean area and interestingly I bought it in 2002. Back then I talked to a few residents there and they pointed out that there is a section which is contentious and is claimed by Airport if I can quote their exact words.

The info has been there but I know some kenyans tend to ignore this crucial facts. I am also convinced that none of the owners of demolished properties has a title. If there was, am sure by know it would have been paraded.

Let us be a bit careful and do proper due diligence. For us who sell properties, we are very keen before we commit any money, at least we carry out proper due diligence before we subdivide and sell to customers.