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is it worth investing on rental flats?
Sakangu
#41 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:52:39 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Nevertheless, I found a way of participating in the best of both worlds and from the bottom of both markets by buying into a listed property company called Pearl Properties smile www.pearlproperties.co.zw the company has portfolio to reckon from CBD Buildings, Office Parks, Industrial Warehouses, Malls and un-developed land Laughing out loudly pays a good dividend too



Seems you are investing in a company that is in real estate, then what are you fighting about, its only that you are not in real estate directly.d'oh!
Cde Monomotapa
#42 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:09:20 AM
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Sakangu wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Nevertheless, I found a way of participating in the best of both worlds and from the bottom of both markets by buying into a listed property company called Pearl Properties smile www.pearlproperties.co.zw the company has portfolio to reckon from CBD Buildings, Office Parks, Industrial Warehouses, Malls and un-developed land Laughing out loudly pays a good dividend too



Seems you are investing in a company that is in real estate, then what are you fighting about, its only that you are not in real estate directly.d'oh!

Now that sort of fellow is refferd to as an intelligent investor. Might I add that the mortgage sector is yet to fully emerge owing to the unwinding liquidity squeeze? LoL! We all know how availability of and access to affordable credit has boosted Kenya's economy post-2002 Laughing out loudly
sanity
#43 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:18:26 PM
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@Pablo,I agree with you.life is a teacher.If I had 10m right now,i would build a flat for rental even for the 100k a month.then I would lnvest elsewhere.that way i would be assured of an income of 100k forever.
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Genghis Khan
#44 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:45:57 PM
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Genghis Khan wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
african coloner wrote:
why invest 10m for 100k a month, surely there must be other ways you can earn that with less capital


That is a 12% return. (ksh 100K * 12)/ksh 10M. Which investment can beat that for such a passive and low risk investment?

Less how much in rates & taxes(30%)? We are talking strictly income without capital gains/losses upon sale in both asset classes.

Why would you pay 30%?

WWGKD?

1. I would build the damn thing for 10m in a company name. The assumption here is that i had 10m in cash. I wouldn't get a bank loan @ 14%plus for such a project.

2. I would sell my car for 1.5m. I would then buy a company car for a similar amount and let the "employees/tenants" work to make the repayments. I would also get a post paid fuel card, and charge the company for any service, insurance etc.

3. If this is not yet 100k, I would find yet another way of expensing the income before KRA gets to it.

4. Every cent of the company money I spend, I invest (from my other income). It can be in the same company as "new capital from shareholders" or just in my personal CDS / savings account doesn't really matter as long as I DON'T spend it as well.

You can pay as low a tax as you are smart, just be careful to do it LEGALLY, consult a lawyer if u have to. KRA guys are not kind to smart people.

The Principal here is to spend and invest before you are taxed.

Companies pay taxes on profits (Income less expense), natural persons pay taxes on Gross Income. All tax systems are flawed this way.

The taxman will audit you but all you have to do is justify the expenses.

You can even buy airtime before paying taxes if u are smart enough.

Even booze for "clients"...

The only substantial amount of money i make in my own name is my salo which is taxed at sourceSad
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Cde Monomotapa
#45 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:56:02 PM
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So much effort & extra professional costs.
african coloner
#46 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:59:54 PM
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i thouht you dont pay any tax on rental flats?
For Sport
#47 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:33:59 PM
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african coloner wrote:
i thouht you dont pay any tax on rental flats?


whaaaat?
Cde Monomotapa
#48 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:42:48 PM
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For Sport wrote:
african coloner wrote:
i thouht you dont pay any tax on rental flats?


whaaaat?

african coloner
#49 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:08:23 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
[quote=For Sport][quote=african coloner]i thouht you dont pay any tax on rental flats?


whaaaat?[/quot


how many people with rental flats pay tax?
Cde Monomotapa
#50 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:39:22 PM
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african coloner wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
[quote=For Sport][quote=african coloner]i thouht you dont pay any tax on rental flats?


whaaaat?[/quot


how many people with rental flats pay tax?

Good question smile
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