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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
ArrestedDev
#4721 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 12:57:12 PM
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nzalela wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
So now KQ600 is KQ80

http://www.businessdaily.../-/uhots4z/-/index.html

The workers union representing a majority of Kenya Airways employees has said it does not anticipate further retrenchments at the national carrier following Friday’s sacking of 80 staff.

The Kenya Aviation Workers Union, whose membership comprises about 2,500 KQ staffers, says the airline’s management has agreed to limit the number of sacked employees significantly below the initial estimate of 600.
d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar


I said 300 earlier...smile so many guys have resigned many more poached by Emirates...currently the important departments like ground services are understaffed if they sack 600 people it will be chaos galore.Plus no pilot is being retrenched so...


BLUNDER GALORE...Teh Union has now held someone by the balls!
Vert dirty game, @maka if you know what I think.



No one is holding the other by the balls it is a BIG problem that is facing the aviation industry. Fight for skilled experienced labour. The Gulf carriers are growing so fast and are sucking up Kenyan talent in the process a fact KQ underestimated for a very long time despite numerous warnings.

KQ is now stable from a cashflow perspective but the threat from the exits is REAL and may ground some aircrafts moving forward if nothing is done.

If you want to see it yourself just open a linked in account and update your CV as a pilot with over 3000 jet hours. You will get an invite for a pilot job interview application within 2 weeks. For technicians it is even worse.


It won't be very dire as you anticipate.The working conditions in the Middle East are very pathetic and not everyone will jump ship. Even those who are already there are likely to come back.The workload is just too much. The Indians, Pakistanis and Filipinos employed by the gulf carriers are lazy and Kenyans carry the burden when they go there. The rest periods are just the bare minimum even for cabin and deck crew.The offer always looks good on paper but due to the high cost of living you will end up disappointed.No one among those who are there will tell you this, they always say let everyone come and check it out for himself/herself. In general, the grass is not greener on the other side as many think.This applies to pilots and technicians as well.
obiero
#4722 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 1:17:11 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,219
Location: nairobi
ArrestedDev wrote:
nzalela wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
So now KQ600 is KQ80

http://www.businessdaily.../-/uhots4z/-/index.html

The workers union representing a majority of Kenya Airways employees has said it does not anticipate further retrenchments at the national carrier following Friday’s sacking of 80 staff.

The Kenya Aviation Workers Union, whose membership comprises about 2,500 KQ staffers, says the airline’s management has agreed to limit the number of sacked employees significantly below the initial estimate of 600.
d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar


I said 300 earlier...smile so many guys have resigned many more poached by Emirates...currently the important departments like ground services are understaffed if they sack 600 people it will be chaos galore.Plus no pilot is being retrenched so...


BLUNDER GALORE...Teh Union has now held someone by the balls!
Vert dirty game, @maka if you know what I think.



No one is holding the other by the balls it is a BIG problem that is facing the aviation industry. Fight for skilled experienced labour. The Gulf carriers are growing so fast and are sucking up Kenyan talent in the process a fact KQ underestimated for a very long time despite numerous warnings.

KQ is now stable from a cashflow perspective but the threat from the exits is REAL and may ground some aircrafts moving forward if nothing is done.

If you want to see it yourself just open a linked in account and update your CV as a pilot with over 3000 jet hours. You will get an invite for a pilot job interview application within 2 weeks. For technicians it is even worse.


It won't be very dire as you anticipate.The working conditions in the Middle East are very pathetic and not everyone will jump ship. Even those who are already there are likely to come back.The workload is just too much. The Indians, Pakistanis and Filipinos employed by the gulf carriers are lazy and Kenyans carry the burden when they go there. The rest periods are just the bare minimum even for cabin and deck crew.The offer always looks good on paper but due to the high cost of living you will end up disappointed.No one among those who are there will tell you this, they always say let everyone come and check it out for himself/herself. In general, the grass is not greener on the other side as many think.This applies to pilots and technicians as well.

Amen

KQ ABP 4.26
Spikes
#4723 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 3:36:27 PM
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Location: Mombasa
obiero wrote:
ArrestedDev wrote:
nzalela wrote:
Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
So now KQ600 is KQ80

http://www.businessdaily.../-/uhots4z/-/index.html

The workers union representing a majority of Kenya Airways employees has said it does not anticipate further retrenchments at the national carrier following Friday’s sacking of 80 staff.

The Kenya Aviation Workers Union, whose membership comprises about 2,500 KQ staffers, says the airline’s management has agreed to limit the number of sacked employees significantly below the initial estimate of 600.
d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar


I said 300 earlier...smile so many guys have resigned many more poached by Emirates...currently the important departments like ground services are understaffed if they sack 600 people it will be chaos galore.Plus no pilot is being retrenched so...


BLUNDER GALORE...Teh Union has now held someone by the balls!
Vert dirty game, @maka if you know what I think.



No one is holding the other by the balls it is a BIG problem that is facing the aviation industry. Fight for skilled experienced labour. The Gulf carriers are growing so fast and are sucking up Kenyan talent in the process a fact KQ underestimated for a very long time despite numerous warnings.

KQ is now stable from a cashflow perspective but the threat from the exits is REAL and may ground some aircrafts moving forward if nothing is done.

If you want to see it yourself just open a linked in account and update your CV as a pilot with over 3000 jet hours. You will get an invite for a pilot job interview application within 2 weeks. For technicians it is even worse.


It won't be very dire as you anticipate.The working conditions in the Middle East are very pathetic and not everyone will jump ship. Even those who are already there are likely to come back.The workload is just too much. The Indians, Pakistanis and Filipinos employed by the gulf carriers are lazy and Kenyans carry the burden when they go there. The rest periods are just the bare minimum even for cabin and deck crew.The offer always looks good on paper but due to the high cost of living you will end up disappointed.No one among those who are there will tell you this, they always say let everyone come and check it out for himself/herself. In general, the grass is not greener on the other side as many think.This applies to pilots and technicians as well.

Amen


I have also agreed 100% for the above analysis. For the first time to agree along with @obiero on KQ thread. It is amazing!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
maka
#4724 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 5:04:03 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
So now KQ600 is KQ80

http://www.businessdaily.../-/uhots4z/-/index.html

The workers union representing a majority of Kenya Airways employees has said it does not anticipate further retrenchments at the national carrier following Friday’s sacking of 80 staff.

The Kenya Aviation Workers Union, whose membership comprises about 2,500 KQ staffers, says the airline’s management has agreed to limit the number of sacked employees significantly below the initial estimate of 600.
d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar


I said 300 earlier...smile so many guys have resigned many more poached by Emirates...currently the important departments like ground services are understaffed if they sack 600 people it will be chaos galore.Plus no pilot is being retrenched so...


Sad state of affairs...another 50 from inflight sent home.
possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#4725 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 6:38:54 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,219
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
So now KQ600 is KQ80

http://www.businessdaily.../-/uhots4z/-/index.html

The workers union representing a majority of Kenya Airways employees has said it does not anticipate further retrenchments at the national carrier following Friday’s sacking of 80 staff.

The Kenya Aviation Workers Union, whose membership comprises about 2,500 KQ staffers, says the airline’s management has agreed to limit the number of sacked employees significantly below the initial estimate of 600.
d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar


I said 300 earlier...smile so many guys have resigned many more poached by Emirates...currently the important departments like ground services are understaffed if they sack 600 people it will be chaos galore.Plus no pilot is being retrenched so...


Sad state of affairs...another 50 from inflight sent home.

Ngunze looks slender and meek but he has the heart of a lion

KQ ABP 4.26
ArrestedDev
#4726 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 8:06:02 PM
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Joined: 5/29/2016
Posts: 898
Location: Nairobi
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
So now KQ600 is KQ80

http://www.businessdaily.../-/uhots4z/-/index.html

The workers union representing a majority of Kenya Airways employees has said it does not anticipate further retrenchments at the national carrier following Friday’s sacking of 80 staff.

The Kenya Aviation Workers Union, whose membership comprises about 2,500 KQ staffers, says the airline’s management has agreed to limit the number of sacked employees significantly below the initial estimate of 600.
d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar


I said 300 earlier...smile so many guys have resigned many more poached by Emirates...currently the important departments like ground services are understaffed if they sack 600 people it will be chaos galore.Plus no pilot is being retrenched so...


Sad state of affairs...another 50 from inflight sent home.


@maka, Do you know if the managers responsible for fuel procurement inefficiencies were among the first batch of 80?
kaimbaga2012
#4727 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 8:14:05 PM
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I always read Engineering staff are poached by Emirates but i never see KQ advertise for Engineers. I always check their website but nothing. My question is, How do KQ recruit Engineers. Kindly any one with information let me know. I would really really love to work for the Airline industry.
mlennyma
#4728 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 8:22:40 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
So now KQ600 is KQ80

http://www.businessdaily.../-/uhots4z/-/index.html

The workers union representing a majority of Kenya Airways employees has said it does not anticipate further retrenchments at the national carrier following Friday’s sacking of 80 staff.

The Kenya Aviation Workers Union, whose membership comprises about 2,500 KQ staffers, says the airline’s management has agreed to limit the number of sacked employees significantly below the initial estimate of 600.
d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar d'oh! Liar

they are re trenching using a loan so i think they cant afford to pay the sendoff to the number they want
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Swenani
#4729 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 10:26:50 PM
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kaimbaga2012 wrote:
I always read Engineering staff are poached by Emirates but i never see KQ advertise for Engineers. I always check their website but nothing. My question is, How do KQ recruit Engineers. Kindly any one with information let me know. I would really really love to work for the Airline industry.


You do not have to work for KQ, Impunity is our resident
welder
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Swenani
#4730 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 10:28:53 PM
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Why are people commenting on this thread if they dont have the 24 point turnaround strategy??

You are all clueless!!!!...... what if the 17th point is to liquidate KQ
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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