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William Ruto is NOT going to be President in 2022
2012
#691 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 2:53:28 PM
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I think the handshakers will be shocked when they are unable to gunner 2/3 support in parliament for the useless referendum to create more seats for themselves.

They should just wait and face WSR head on in 2022.

BBI will solve it
:)
freiks
#692 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 4:03:05 PM
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2012 wrote:
I think the handshakers will be shocked when they are unable to gunner 2/3 support in parliament for the useless referendum to create more seats for themselves.

They should just wait and face WSR head on in 2022.


If they dare referendum trick it will backfire early in the morning. Hapo ndio akina Njung'e watajua hawajui
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Angelica _ann
#693 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 4:17:40 PM
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freiks wrote:
2012 wrote:
I think the handshakers will be shocked when they are unable to gunner 2/3 support in parliament for the useless referendum to create more seats for themselves.

They should just wait and face WSR head on in 2022.


If they dare referendum trick it will backfire early in the morning. Hapo ndio akina Njung'e watajua hawajui


There will be NO Referendum.
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Njunge
#694 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2019 6:10:53 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
freiks wrote:
2012 wrote:
I think the handshakers will be shocked when they are unable to gunner 2/3 support in parliament for the useless referendum to create more seats for themselves.

They should just wait and face WSR head on in 2022.


If they dare referendum trick it will backfire early in the morning. Hapo ndio akina Njung'e watajua hawajui


There will be NO Referendum.


Say that twice over. The referendum talk is coming from tangatanga corner. Uhuru will retire in 2022.Period!!
McReggae
#695 Posted : Friday, May 10, 2019 2:18:52 PM
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Uhuru has been bad enough, I cant imagine a Looto presidency!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
hardwood
#696 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 9:26:33 AM
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Baba has spoken.....

https://www.nation.co.ke...10620-k8whuj/index.html

Quote:
Using an illustration from Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice, the ODM leader, without mentioning names, said Kenyans cannot be held at ransom by the pre-election agreement that was reached between the President and his deputy William Ruto.

"Now we have a situation of a Shylock of Kenyans. So we have been told we agreed, so you must pay, if you don't pay there will be trouble, you will pay by blood," said the ODM leader.

"We won't allow some Kenyans to threaten others here because we were not there when you were signing agreements. We were not there. You can't go and make an agreement on the heads of all Kenyans who were not involved," he stated.
FRM2011
#697 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 10:13:43 AM
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Was in the village over the weekend and this is what I observed.

If elections were called today, 50% of the villagers in Nyeri would vote for ruto. They are yet to recover from the ruthless propaganda that taught them rao was our enemy and ruto is the one helping us fight him. They all accept he is crooked and Uhuru has messed the economy but Rao remains the enemy.

Inooro tv has a face-off show where tangatanga and kieleweke MPs engage every week. Now that the propaganda machinery was turned off, this program is the only source of direction for those who believed the 2017 propaganda and are now lost. Nobody has told them whether they should stop hating Rao and start disliking ruto. At the moment, it seems 50/50.

My take is if Rao is on the ballot, ruto will have not less than 30% of votes in central even before campaigning.

Disclaimer : These are Nyeri voters,and they may not represent the rest of mt. Kenya region. Nyeri has the most stubborn voters this country has ever produced. It's no use buying any of their MPs, the voters will be firing all of them in 2022.
madhaquer
#698 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 10:48:22 AM
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FRM2011 wrote:
Was in the village over the weekend and this is what I observed.

If elections were called today, 50% of the villagers in Nyeri would vote for ruto. They are yet to recover from the ruthless propaganda that taught them rao was our enemy and ruto is the one helping us fight him. They all accept he is crooked and Uhuru has messed the economy but Rao remains the enemy.

Inooro tv has a face-off show where tangatanga and kieleweke MPs engage every week. Now that the propaganda machinery was turned off, this program is the only source of direction for those who believed the 2017 propaganda and are now lost. Nobody has told them whether they should stop hating Rao and start disliking ruto. At the moment, it seems 50/50.

My take is if Rao is on the ballot, ruto will have not less than 30% of votes in central even before campaigning.

Disclaimer : These are Nyeri voters,and they may not represent the rest of mt. Kenya region. Nyeri has the most stubborn voters this country has ever produced. It's no use buying any of their MPs, the voters will be firing all of them in 2022.


If RAO and RUTO are the main players in the ballot, it will be a close call and the Kikuyu votes will be at the mercy of a kikuyu kingmaker. I don't believe this will be the case though. We will definitely see a Kikuyu spoiler in there and that should be to RAO's advantage.

After 3/4 presidencies, Kikuyus need to agree to pass the baton to the rest of the country. UK has been a miserable failure infact I'm struggling to find a well executed project in the last 10 years.
The fact that Ruto is even expecting Kenyans to consider him is also very disheartening to me. Once again, the blame lies in the media with their selective reporting and emphasis on politricks.

Now who are the Kikuyu spoilers who will be in the 2022 ballot ?

tycho
#699 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 11:28:16 AM
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The media can't be blamed. Or rather we can only blame the media if they are responsible for thinking for the citizens.

A citizen's main duty is to heed the mandate of heaven which is responsible for his/her existence.

The rest are aids.

Maybe we should consider the questions of purpose fulfillment as a basic human right. The assumptions in our constitutions may be erroneous in so far as what they imply about human purpose
AlphDoti
#700 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 12:47:28 PM
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tycho wrote:
The media can't be blamed. Or rather we can only blame the media if they are responsible for thinking for the citizens.

A citizen's main duty is to heed the mandate of heaven which is responsible for his/her existence.

The rest are aids.

Maybe we should consider the questions of purpose fulfillment as a basic human right. The assumptions in our constitutions may be erroneous in so far as what they imply about human purpose

Why are you pretending you do not know something they do: media propaganda which influence the masses? Some people can think for themselves, but majority of the masses do not, they wait to be told, and the media know this.
Fyatu
#701 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 12:48:34 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
Was in the village over the weekend and this is what I observed.

If elections were called today, 50% of the villagers in Nyeri would vote for ruto. They are yet to recover from the ruthless propaganda that taught them rao was our enemy and ruto is the one helping us fight him. They all accept he is crooked and Uhuru has messed the economy but Rao remains the enemy.

Inooro tv has a face-off show where tangatanga and kieleweke MPs engage every week. Now that the propaganda machinery was turned off, this program is the only source of direction for those who believed the 2017 propaganda and are now lost. Nobody has told them whether they should stop hating Rao and start disliking ruto. At the moment, it seems 50/50.

My take is if Rao is on the ballot, ruto will have not less than 30% of votes in central even before campaigning.

Disclaimer : These are Nyeri voters,and they may not represent the rest of mt. Kenya region. Nyeri has the most stubborn voters this country has ever produced. It's no use buying any of their MPs, the voters will be firing all of them in 2022.


Only Uhuru can disabuse the house of this lie. Indeed if Uhuru was serious about handshake, he should by now have gone around all Mt. Kenya counties(including Githurai) with RAO telling the people to view Raila as a human being who cannot harm them if he took power. The Kieleweke team should be preaching the same other than gallivanting around shaking ass on podiums spreading more hate and division.
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Gathige
#702 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 2:02:59 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Was in the village over the weekend and this is what I observed.

If elections were called today, 50% of the villagers in Nyeri would vote for ruto. They are yet to recover from the ruthless propaganda that taught them rao was our enemy and ruto is the one helping us fight him. They all accept he is crooked and Uhuru has messed the economy but Rao remains the enemy.

Inooro tv has a face-off show where tangatanga and kieleweke MPs engage every week. Now that the propaganda machinery was turned off, this program is the only source of direction for those who believed the 2017 propaganda and are now lost. Nobody has told them whether they should stop hating Rao and start disliking ruto. At the moment, it seems 50/50.

My take is if Rao is on the ballot, ruto will have not less than 30% of votes in central even before campaigning.

Disclaimer : These are Nyeri voters,and they may not represent the rest of mt. Kenya region. Nyeri has the most stubborn voters this country has ever produced. It's no use buying any of their MPs, the voters will be firing all of them in 2022.


Only Uhuru can disabuse the house of this lie. Indeed if Uhuru was serious about handshake, he should by now have gone around all Mt. Kenya counties(including Githurai) with RAO telling the people to view Raila as a human being who cannot harm them if he took power. The Kieleweke team should be preaching the same other than gallivanting around shaking ass on podiums spreading more hate and division.


UMK's political clout in Central only applies when he is campaigning for himself. He should let both WSR and RAO wajitafutie.

RAO should not rely on the likes of Maina Kamanda, Mumbi Ngaru etc for votes as their days are numbered.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
madhaquer
#703 Posted : Monday, May 13, 2019 3:17:40 PM
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tycho wrote:
The media can't be blamed. Or rather we can only blame the media if they are responsible for thinking for the citizens.

A citizen's main duty is to heed the mandate of heaven which is responsible for his/her existence.

The rest are aids.

Maybe we should consider the questions of purpose fulfillment as a basic human right. The assumptions in our constitutions may be erroneous in so far as what they imply about human purpose


What is the primary source of the citizen's information ?
When that information is given in bits and some is withheld, when others are misquoted, or when unverified information is spread around as news even when others are blacked out from the news, then the media can be blamed.
newfarer
#704 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 6:00:31 AM
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not related but relevant

https://www.standardmedi...from-ex-public-official

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PeterReborn
#705 Posted : Tuesday, May 14, 2019 9:08:37 AM
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WSR is going to be the next president whether middle class likes it or not.The strategy of donating money to churches is working tremendously.Being with the church and supporting the church has humanised him and made him more likeable.There is no worthy challenger and he has stolen enough resources to run a crazy campaign.He only needs a deputy like Moses Kuria and by 6 A.M the man will be elected the next president.
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