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iris
#4431 Posted : Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:12:51 PM
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Location: Nairobi
hisah wrote:
Stocks Look Cheap to Nigeria’s Onyema as Foreigners Exit

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Foreign investors fleeing Nigeria as oil prices plunge are leaving stocks undervalued in Africa’s biggest economy, the bourse’s chief executive officer said.

The benchmark index’s 18 percent decline this year isn’t justified by economic changes and as a result Nigerian equities are “effectively on sale,” Oscar Onyema said in an interview yesterday at a conference in Diani, Kenya. “The fundamentals demand higher valuations.”

Nigerian stocks dropped as crude slid into a bear market and the central bank eroded reserves to support the currency, which fell to a record low this month. Nigeria is Africa’s biggest oil producer, and its $520 billion economy is forecast to grow 6.5 percent this year and next, according to a Bloomberg survey of economists.

“The local institutional investors are net buyers at the moment,” said Onyema. “They’re buying and their way of looking at it is that the prices we’re seeing today are not justified by the fundamentals.”


Lagos is in 2011 KE like ulcers central. I'm sure Mzee young must be a busy buyer with all the fat-tails showing up in Lagos. I'm really struggling to have a vacation with most hydrocarbon nations equities getting clobbered especially hydrocarbon related. Fat discounts are plenty...

What a xmas!!! smile


I am trying to understand the second sentence without success. Could you interpret for the innocent?
Boris Boyka
#4432 Posted : Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:39:01 PM
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Joined: 11/15/2013
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iris wrote:
hisah wrote:
Stocks Look Cheap to Nigeria’s Onyema as Foreigners Exit

Quote:
Foreign investors fleeing Nigeria as oil prices plunge are leaving stocks undervalued in Africa’s biggest economy, the bourse’s chief executive officer said.

The benchmark index’s 18 percent decline this year isn’t justified by economic changes and as a result Nigerian equities are “effectively on sale,” Oscar Onyema said in an interview yesterday at a conference in Diani, Kenya. “The fundamentals demand higher valuations.”

Nigerian stocks dropped as crude slid into a bear market and the central bank eroded reserves to support the currency, which fell to a record low this month. Nigeria is Africa’s biggest oil producer, and its $520 billion economy is forecast to grow 6.5 percent this year and next, according to a Bloomberg survey of economists.

“The local institutional investors are net buyers at the moment,” said Onyema. “They’re buying and their way of looking at it is that the prices we’re seeing today are not justified by the fundamentals.”


Lagos is in 2011 KE like ulcers central. I'm sure Mzee young must be a busy buyer with all the fat-tails showing up in Lagos. I'm really struggling to have a vacation with most hydrocarbon nations equities getting clobbered especially hydrocarbon related. Fat discounts are plenty...

What a xmas!!! smile


I am trying to understand the second sentence without success. Could you interpret for the innocent?

@Iris Young is a wazuan,Nigerian national who has been in Kenya & NSE for long. he's old nearing retire (hence mzee young) and went back to Nigeria this year. look here
www.wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=12920
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
iris
#4433 Posted : Wednesday, November 26, 2014 9:51:59 AM
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Location: Nairobi
Boris Boyka wrote:
iris wrote:
hisah wrote:
Stocks Look Cheap to Nigeria’s Onyema as Foreigners Exit

Quote:
Foreign investors fleeing Nigeria as oil prices plunge are leaving stocks undervalued in Africa’s biggest economy, the bourse’s chief executive officer said.

The benchmark index’s 18 percent decline this year isn’t justified by economic changes and as a result Nigerian equities are “effectively on sale,” Oscar Onyema said in an interview yesterday at a conference in Diani, Kenya. “The fundamentals demand higher valuations.”

Nigerian stocks dropped as crude slid into a bear market and the central bank eroded reserves to support the currency, which fell to a record low this month. Nigeria is Africa’s biggest oil producer, and its $520 billion economy is forecast to grow 6.5 percent this year and next, according to a Bloomberg survey of economists.

“The local institutional investors are net buyers at the moment,” said Onyema. “They’re buying and their way of looking at it is that the prices we’re seeing today are not justified by the fundamentals.”


Lagos is in 2011 KE like ulcers central. I'm sure Mzee young must be a busy buyer with all the fat-tails showing up in Lagos. I'm really struggling to have a vacation with most hydrocarbon nations equities getting clobbered especially hydrocarbon related. Fat discounts are plenty...

What a xmas!!! smile


I am trying to understand the second sentence without success. Could you interpret for the innocent?

@Iris Young is a wazuan,Nigerian national who has been in Kenya & NSE for long. he's old nearing retire (hence mzee young) and went back to Nigeria this year. look here
www.wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=12920


@Boris Thanks for the clarification and double thanks for a great link. I am enjoying the education.
hisah
#4434 Posted : Wednesday, November 26, 2014 12:03:02 PM
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hisah wrote:
Stocks Look Cheap to Nigeria’s Onyema as Foreigners Exit

Quote:
Foreign investors fleeing Nigeria as oil prices plunge are leaving stocks undervalued in Africa’s biggest economy, the bourse’s chief executive officer said.

The benchmark index’s 18 percent decline this year isn’t justified by economic changes and as a result Nigerian equities are “effectively on sale,” Oscar Onyema said in an interview yesterday at a conference in Diani, Kenya. “The fundamentals demand higher valuations.”

Nigerian stocks dropped as crude slid into a bear market and the central bank eroded reserves to support the currency, which fell to a record low this month. Nigeria is Africa’s biggest oil producer, and its $520 billion economy is forecast to grow 6.5 percent this year and next, according to a Bloomberg survey of economists.

“The local institutional investors are net buyers at the moment,” said Onyema. “They’re buying and their way of looking at it is that the prices we’re seeing today are not justified by the fundamentals.”


Lagos is in 2011 KE like ulcers central. I'm sure Mzee young must be a busy buyer with all the fat-tails showing up in Lagos. I'm really struggling to have a vacation with most hydrocarbon nations equities getting clobbered especially hydrocarbon related. Fat discounts are plenty...

What a xmas!!! smile

Nigeria's MPC hikes rate to 13% and devalues the Naira reference rate to 168. But the market had already pushed beyond the reference rate towards 180.

The depressed oil price will make many hydrocarbon nations to suffer a lot of headaches with their current and next national budgets. I expect these oil nation CBs to devalue their currencies going forward when things get hot. Some of them have never face current account deficits. That will be a tough pit for them.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Mart_Consult
#4435 Posted : Thursday, November 27, 2014 9:20:05 PM
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THE Cartel's spoken...what say you @Hisah?

I'm not buying their story of saying by maintaining output at current levels, low Oil prices will fuel global economy growth...something doesn't sound right there, OPEC isn't the world's keeper...bye-bye to a now crippled Venezuela economy too...
I went into the (Ferry) industry knowing the same thing I knew with all other businesses I went into- Nothing. Then I built it from there. - Sheldon Adelson (Titans at the Table- Giants of Macau)
hisah
#4436 Posted : Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:40:33 PM
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Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
Mart_Consult wrote:
THE Cartel's spoken...what say you @Hisah?

I'm not buying their story of saying by maintaining output at current levels, low Oil prices will fuel global economy growth...something doesn't sound right there, OPEC isn't the world's keeper...bye-bye to a now crippled Venezuela economy too...

Indeed OPEC is out of sorts. Oil has just broken another critical support level in what has now become a norm since Sept!? Shale oil sector and small hydrocarbon economies are facing a nasty crossfire.

This Putin guy. Watch him.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#4437 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 6:16:21 AM
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Some oil funds are definitely stuck here. Margin call central as oil price nosedive still on freefall.

** Hydrocarbon GFC **
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mkonomtupu
#4438 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 10:25:30 AM
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Joined: 2/10/2010
Posts: 1,001
Location: River Road
hisah wrote:
Mart_Consult wrote:
THE Cartel's spoken...what say you @Hisah?

I'm not buying their story of saying by maintaining output at current levels, low Oil prices will fuel global economy growth...something doesn't sound right there, OPEC isn't the world's keeper...bye-bye to a now crippled Venezuela economy too...

Indeed OPEC is out of sorts. Oil has just broken another critical support level in what has now become a norm since Sept!? Shale oil sector and small hydrocarbon economies are facing a nasty crossfire.

This Putin guy. Watch him.


Unless you can have oil below $60 and sustained for more than 6 months shale oil will triumph in this war. Break even is as low as $42 for shale oil. But junk bonds leveraged at oil price at $80 will have nasty end. This price ware will not end well for both sides....deflation spiral

Quote:
"We have OPEC on the run. I say get an energy plan & finish them off" T. Boone Picket


Quote:
"OPEC is always fighting with the United States because the United States has declared it is always against OPEC... Shale oil is a disaster as a method of production, the fracking. But also it is too expensive. And there we are going to see what will happen with production,"Venezuelan Foreign Minister Rafael Ramirez
hisah
#4439 Posted : Monday, December 01, 2014 5:57:42 PM
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Nigerian 10yr eurobond yield has spiked sharply as the oil price nosedive and naira devaluation reality spooks the market. Things will be tough in 2015 if the trend sustains for Naira and Nigerian equities.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
karanjakinuthia
#4440 Posted : Tuesday, December 02, 2014 2:16:00 PM
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Joined: 11/13/2006
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Location: Nairobi
The Abuja-Nairobi Arbitrage

The dip of crude oil below the $74.98 level seems to have dampened the growth prospects of oil-producing countries. The Russian Ruble and Nigerian Naira, by way of example, have suffered losses against the U.S. Dollar signaling, perhaps, that the emerging market boom is quickly turning into a bust...

Read more:

https://www.scribd.com/d...Abuja-Nairobi-Arbitrage

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