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hisah
#4271 Posted : Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:21:53 AM
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mnandii wrote:
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......the European Central Bank has instituted negative interest rates for member banks. This could soon spread to the US and also to consumer accounts. If so, you would find money taken out of your bank account each quarter unless you spend it. Some observers think that in the US at least it will start with higher account fees, which will be stealth negative interest rates, and then move to overtly negative rates.


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The idea is that if low rates are not yet persuading you to spend, then why not punish you even more for saving. To make this more effective, there would also be a push for all electronic money, to keep you from stashing any away from the confiscation agents.


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The Banker is clearly out of sorts. You can't force consumption to happen. It has to be a psychological trigger. How do you force banks to lend when there is no demand? If banks still think lending is risky, how do they lend? Zero sum game. I'm waiting to see how SNB deals with flight from euro to swiss franc as it tries to defend that 1.20 floor.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#4272 Posted : Tuesday, June 10, 2014 8:35:12 AM
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Qingdao port, Shandong province. Commodity collateral financing blackholes coming up smile

@kk - will we see a commingling of the entire commodoties markets?!? Rehypothecation of some commodities by dishonest lenders would surely create a nasty default blackhole if it gets to the cliff dive point.

Watching copper, aluminium and zinc prices.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Mastermind
#4273 Posted : Thursday, June 12, 2014 1:59:31 PM
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murchr wrote:
Ghana Central Bank goes ahead and prints money to pay its debts, ignoring fitch's warning


'We' are watching.
If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
quicksand
#4274 Posted : Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:28:20 PM
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Mastermind wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ghana Central Bank goes ahead and prints money to pay its debts, ignoring fitch's warning


'We' are watching.

Wait...didnt the US Federal Reserve do just that when the Treasury had to bail out Bears Stearns, Fannie Mae, Lehmann Brothers and other ailing banks?? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
whiteowl
#4275 Posted : Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:39:48 PM
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mnandii wrote:
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......the European Central Bank has instituted negative interest rates for member banks. This could soon spread to the US and also to consumer accounts. If so, you would find money taken out of your bank account each quarter unless you spend it. Some observers think that in the US at least it will start with higher account fees, which will be stealth negative interest rates, and then move to overtly negative rates.


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The idea is that if low rates are not yet persuading you to spend, then why not punish you even more for saving. To make this more effective, there would also be a push for all electronic money, to keep you from stashing any away from the confiscation agents.


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from an economic perspective this is pure bs! I don't even know how they come up with this stuff
whiteowl
#4276 Posted : Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:47:23 PM
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quicksand wrote:
Mastermind wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ghana Central Bank goes ahead and prints money to pay its debts, ignoring fitch's warning


'We' are watching.

Wait...didnt the US Federal Reserve do just that when the Treasury had to bail out Bears Stearns, Fannie Mae, Lehmann Brothers and other ailing banks?? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


yep,they do that a lot. lowering interest rates n printing more money (Quantitative easing) whenever they're in an economic crisis .that's fighting inflation by adding more inflation which makes no sense whatsoever. they can keep playing their monkey games coz people have a lot of trust in the $ but one day the music will stop n all that will be left is the monkeys.
murchr
#4277 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 3:21:59 AM
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Jihadists are making their way to Baghdad, consequences....rising fuel prices.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#4278 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 3:16:38 PM
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murchr wrote:
Jihadists are making their way to Baghdad, consequences....rising fuel prices.

With a weakening KES with a slow econ and spiking inflation and funny national budget. I feel chills creeping my spine...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
murchr
#4279 Posted : Friday, June 13, 2014 5:12:46 PM
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hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
Jihadists are making their way to Baghdad, consequences....rising fuel prices.

With a weakening KES with a slow econ and spiking inflation and funny national budget. I feel chills creeping my spine...


That budget was really lukewarm unless theres smthing that we dont knw, i found it rather out of touch
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#4280 Posted : Monday, June 16, 2014 3:19:11 AM
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Both brent and crude oil cartoons indicate the breakout from the ascending triangle. Oil inflation is back Sad

When oil rallies equities head south...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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